NO WAY. Really, MM?

Started by Marquis Whirly3 pages

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i hope they put it under the marvel max banner, the MM book was gory. guys got gibbed in fights (warpsmith pwned some dude with a girder through the torso iirc and a slab of junk in the dome)

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i hope they put it under the marvel max banner, the MM book was gory. guys got gibbed in fights (warpsmith pwned some dude with a girder through the torso iirc and a slab of junk in the dome)

Yeah. MM inspired MAX books like Supreme Power, with it's extreme violence and complicated morality questions. Though if Gaiman writes it, it won't go that far in that direction. He's not into overviolence.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
As a stupid, casual fan of comics, I find this to be an unwise move. I've never heard of this guy before and, from skimming his bio, I immediately think he's a knock off of Captain Marvel. True, a good story from a good writer can turn a boring ass cucumber into a sweet ass pickle, but that's going to be one tough hump to get over.

He IS Captain Marvel- licensing rights made them change his name from Marvelman into Miracleman- he was a cheap knock off of Cap, until Alan Moore (and later, Neil Gaiman) wrote a pretty fantastic series about him.

There is zero chance we're going to see him interact with the regular MU. Gaiman has been saying for years that he wanted to finish what he'd he'd started about him, before the ridiculous copyrights imbroglio.

Originally posted by roughrider
Yeah. MM inspired MAX books like Supreme Power, with it's extreme violence and complicated morality questions. Though if Gaiman writes it, it won't go that far in that direction. He's not into overviolence.

...Did you read the Gaiman issues of Miracleman?

Originally posted by tjcoady
...Did you read the Gaiman issues of Miracleman?

You mean the series that focused on Andy Warhol and didn't have every person in London individually torn apart?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You mean the series that focused on Andy Warhol and didn't have every person in London individually torn apart?

The Andy Warhol issue was freaking fantastic.

Yet the Moore-ultraviolence is nothing compared to the emotional violence of issues like the Spy-city one, or the "climbing to the top of Olympus" one.

Plus, Gaiman's "Marvelman: Dark Age" was billed as basically a fight between Marvelman and Kid Marvelman destroying the earth. So if Gaiman picks up where he left off, then we have plenty of violence to look forward to.

Originally posted by tjcoady
Plus, Gaiman's "Marvelman: Dark Age" was billed as basically a fight between Marvelman and Kid Marvelman destroying the earth. So if Gaiman picks up where he left off, then we have plenty of violence to look forward to.
i always thought of kid marvelman as somewhat akin to superboy prime [both mentally/emotionally, and power-wise] - but they could have picked a better name for him than "dicky" srsly. regardless, a fight between them would be quite spectacular, to say the least.

but i am curious [now that MM is an official marvel character, and all] if his former death at the hands of fury will be acknowledged, or disregarded?:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/1934042/fury1.jpg.html

Originally posted by tjcoady
...Did you read the Gaiman issues of Miracleman?

No. It's just my twenty plus observation of his work, that he pulls back on the violence more than Moore. (Moore does it for a reason, though; to disturb us.)

Because I never thought I'd get hold of this series, I read it by other internet based means.......and was very disappointed. Didn't enjoy Moore's or Gaiman's issues. I have a ton of respect for their work, but I really didn't enjoy the series. It felt a little too flowery for me.It was very expository and for a Superman-esque character like Marvelman/Miracleman, that can get a little tedious after a few issues.

It was interesting to read cos it's the story that, up until now, was the one that got away. But judging the stories purely on their own merits, I wasn't too happy with them. Art was good. Interesting to see early Alan Davis work as he's one of my favourite artists but I prefer his later stuff.

I don't like the name Marvelman. Should make it Miracleman again.

I don't get how you didn't like this series Will, their narrative style is pretty damn good. They didn't reinvent the wheel, but they threw in nice concepts.

So... Anyone is getting the new MM books?

Originally posted by Bentley
So... Anyone is getting the new MM books?
Are they out?

Nah, according to solicits the first actually new additions to the mythos come until July.

Give it to Mr. Brubaker. He'd do MM justice. The man has hit nothing but home runs the last 8 years or so. IMO of course.

So by now that one-shot, plus the first collected edition should have come out. Anybody seen them, or picked them up?

The ones I've seen are mostly silver-agish advetures of sort, not really bad but you need to be into that thing, they are reprints but the original must be pretty hard to come by, so good enough.

Originally posted by Bentley
I don't get how you didn't like this series Will, their narrative style is pretty damn good. They didn't reinvent the wheel, but they threw in nice concepts.

I liked that his sidekick was the villain. I thought it brought gore in comics to a level I'd never seen before, but it just wasn't my sort of story. I was expecting something slightly more sophisticated from Alan Moore and it didn't meet my epectations.

I'm starting to think the hype was unfortunately from the legal status of the title and not from the quality of the storylines, but hey, to each their own. 🙂