Hal Jordan vs Steve Rogers

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Originally posted by jalek moye
a yea of training wouldnt be enough to beat him

fair enough.

Cap wins. Kyle hit greatness fairly quickly thanks to the imagination that accompanies being a talented artist, right? Well Cap's also an artist and has a peak human brain that allows him to learn faster than most. He's led Quasar in the field plenty of times so he's already familiar with many of the ways constructs can be useful in combat, and his will/hope probably equals Hal when he STARTS training, let alone after working with the ring for a year.

Hal gets his clock cleaned with an American Flag shaped construct for being a woman beater 😄 .

i just can't see steve training for a single year overcoming hal's decades-long experience. *shrug*

Originally posted by darthgoober
Cap wins. Kyle hit greatness fairly quickly thanks to the imagination that accompanies being a talented artist, right? Well Cap's also an artist and has a peak human brain that allows him to learn faster than most. He's led Quasar in the field plenty of times so he's already familiar with many of the ways constructs can be useful in combat, and his will/hope probably equals Hal when he STARTS training, let alone after working with the ring for a year.

Hal gets his clock cleaned with an American Flag shaped construct for being a woman beater 😄 .

I was actually consdiering that point but I couldnt think of any examples of other GLs who learnt quickly.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Cap wins. Kyle hit greatness fairly quickly thanks to the imagination that accompanies being a talented artist, right? Well Cap's also an artist and has a peak human brain that allows him to learn faster than most. He's led Quasar in the field plenty of times so he's already familiar with many of the ways constructs can be useful in combat, and his will/hope probably equals Hal when he STARTS training, let alone after working with the ring for a year.

Hal gets his clock cleaned with an American Flag shaped construct for being a woman beater 😄 .

kyle sucked at the beginning. there were months and months of stories where he's wondering if he's ever going to shake off the hal jordan stigma. he was good, sure, and he did well in the league, but greatness? that took a bit longer, iirc.

Originally posted by Galan007
i just can't see steve training for a single year overcoming hal's decades-long experience. *shrug*

Kang noted that (at least in regards to new forms of fighting) Cap learned in days what others took years to master. Besides Cap always wins, that's just the way it is 😛 .

Originally posted by darthgoober
Kang noted that (at least in regards to new forms of fighting) Cap learned in days what others took years to master. Besides Cap always wins, that's just the way it is 😛 .

There are also examples of him learning things and being a pro in a short period of time.

Originally posted by -Pr-
kyle sucked at the beginning. there were months and months of stories where he's wondering if he's ever going to shake off the hal jordan stigma. he was good, sure, and he did well in the league, but greatness? that took a bit longer, iirc.

Kyle floundered at first because he was all alone and was having to teach himself the ropes of being a lantern. If he'd had someone like Hal training him I doubt it would have taken anywhere near that long.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Kyle floundered at first because he was all alone and was having to teach himself the ropes of being a lantern. If he'd had someone like Hal training him I doubt it would have taken anywhere near that long.

that's probably true, but kyle still had plenty of issues. plus, hal is considered the daddy of all lanterns for a reason. it isn't just training that makes him what he is. hell, according to his origin, he didn't even follow his own training that much.

just don't see cap toppling that with barely a year...

Originally posted by -Pr-
that's probably true, but kyle still had plenty of issues. plus, hal is considered the daddy of all lanterns for a reason. it isn't just training that makes him what he is. hell, according to his origin, he didn't even follow his own training that much.

just don't see cap toppling that with barely a year...


It's like Nick Fury pointed out when Cap used his shield to take down a missile that had already taken off, when Cap sets his mind to doing something, it gets done(and that was without a ring) 😉 .

Originally posted by darthgoober
It's like Nick Fury pointed out when Cap used his shield to take down a missile that had already taken off, when Cap sets his mind to doing something, it gets done(and that was without a ring) 😉 .

you could say the same thing about hal, you know...

Originally posted by -Pr-
that's probably true, but kyle still had plenty of issues. plus, hal is considered the daddy of all lanterns for a reason. it isn't just training that makes him what he is. hell, according to his origin, he didn't even follow his own training that much.

just don't see cap toppling that with barely a year...

So the Daddy of all Lanterns putting the Daddy of Courage, Honor, and Bravery through the most rigorous training ever?

Has Hal blocked or took the American dream shield to the face? 👿 👿

Originally posted by -Pr-
you could say the same thing about hal, you know...

Yeah but that's WITH the ring. It could be said about ANYONE who has a GL ring. Point is, Cap doesn't need the ring to gain the trait 😛 .

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yeah but that's WITH the ring. It could be said about ANYONE who has a GL ring. Point is, Cap doesn't need the ring to gain the trait 😛 .

it's not, actually. hal is that good, he just doesn't have that handy sss to help him out. 😛

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
So the Daddy of all Lanterns putting the Daddy of Courage, Honor, and Bravery through the most rigorous training ever?

Has Hal blocked or took the American dream shield to the face? 👿 👿

hal would catch it and toss it back.

Originally posted by -Pr-
it's not, actually. hal is that good, he just doesn't have that handy sss to help him out. 😛

You got "ringless" feats to back that up 😈 ?

Originally posted by darthgoober
You got "ringless" feats to back that up 😈 ?

to back up what? willpower? courage? bravery? (thanks wei)

Originally posted by -Pr-
it's not, actually. hal is that good, he just doesn't have that handy sss to help him out. 😛

hal would catch it and toss it back.

Tahaha...oh wait...😐

Originally posted by -Pr-
to back up what? willpower? courage? bravery? (thanks wei)

His being "that good".

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Tahaha...oh wait...😐

😂

Originally posted by darthgoober
His being "that good".

you want me to show all hal's positive qualities without the ring, even though having the ring has no bearing on those same actual qualities?

Originally posted by -Pr-
you want me to show all hal's positive qualities without the ring, even though having the ring has no bearing on those same actual qualities?

No, I want you to show Hal being able to do anything he sets his mind to without the ring 😛 .

9 times out of 10 regardless of the topic, if you want to be right all you have to say is "Captain America wins".