Inspired by Chomper X. Obama worries about race more than white Presidents have?

Originally posted by chomperx9
i agree there has to be a site somewhere that still has it.

I disagree, however, I doubt very much that he accused a specific officer of racism in this incident. I'll eat my hat if you find it thought, so hey, that should be motivation.

Originally posted by Breast Feeder
Does Obama have an anti-white bias? He seems to like labelling people racist.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32092715/ns/us_news-race_and_ethnicity/?GT1=43001

When he said the officer acted "stupidly" he just had a "black man moment". In that split-second he was a black man from the South Side of Chicago, not the President of the United States. And since Obama went to Harvard, that's another camaraderie he has with Prof. Gates.

The police Sergeant said that he made rude comments about his mother, and the image of a middle-aged Harvard professor cracking yo' momma jokes is funny as hell.

Originally posted by Breast Feeder
Does Obama have an anti-white bias? He seems to like labelling people racist.[/url]

Not in the way that more than half of all white u.s. presidents that ever were, past and present, have had an anti-black bias, if that's what you mean.

I mean, some u.s. presidents owned hundreds of black slaves, right? And you can't get more anti-race than that. And they've not only labeled but blatantly used and said the "N" or some racial slur word in lit and in speech in front of other blacks and other colleagues and in general public audiences. Press conferences, probably.

We obviously know it's not as open (racism) as it was in the past, but it was or use to be normal to be this way for a white u.s. president and white people in general, It was acceptable. The point is, is that Blacks have gone through it for centuries, and are still going through it, here in the u.s. till this day. So i think you'll be ok, if you think this one president, who'll just only be at his post for 6 years tops, makes you feel that he "may" have an anti-white bias.

Not trying to sound racist here, just want you to look on the flip side of the coin, as well..

Not sure if the "yeah, but, they did it first" is a viable excuse, especially for the leader of a country.

Why would Obama only do 1.5 terms at the most?

Originally posted by Robtard
Not sure if the "yeah, but, they did it first" is a viable excuse, especially for the leader of a country.

Well not for this at least.

Originally posted by Robtard
Why would Obama only do 1.5 terms at the most?

Because no black man has ever died of natural causes, all of them from the beginning of history have been killed by "the Man".

That or because he's black and as a result is liable to give up on the presidency thing because it's a white man's job and thus too hard for him.

Originally posted by Robtard
Not sure if the "yeah, but, they did it first" is a viable excuse, especially for the leader of a country.

Why would Obama only do 1.5 terms at the most?

You've miscomprehended.

that wasn't my point, and even if it was, i'd never consider it an excuse, especially for the leader of a country.

I was merely addressing the posters' assumption, or worry, about a u.s. president "possibly" being racist cause of how the poster "felt". And all i'm saying, in regards to him, (the poster) that he (the poster) will be ok because Blacks have survived worse than that and at an astronomically higher price for a very, very long time.

Just trying to calm his fears, is all. I mean Obama should be anti-any race politically cause it's unconstitutional and just cause it's immoral,as well but (the poster)'ll survive. I mean, no one race is superior than the other right? And if there was a superior race, don't you think this would be a cake wake if the more inferior race has gone through, and came out of, it?

And ok, how ever long Obama has left in the White House, just years, he won't be there for the next 3-4 centuries.

Fair enough. Even Ali got hit.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
That or because he's black and as a result is liable to give up on the presidency thing because it's a white man's job and thus too hard for him.

Ah. The old "jokes you secretly mean" move.

I've been the target of those, lol.

I dunno, as of late i've noticed when people do that, like try to pass of something racial, or deep seeded, as a joke, so as to not come off as racist, is starting to become funny to me now. Like lol funny.

Then there's one of hundreds of escape clauses used if accused, and sometimes while even trying to make you out to be the dolt. Escape clauses like "i'm just kiddin', man", "just jokin' dude", or "have a sense of humor, pal"

just sayin the sh*t's funny.

Or racial jokes are just some of the funniest jokes, as fact.

I don't have a problem with Jews, my best friend is a Jew. Yet I find this joke to be funny and it has nothing to do with being anti-Jew.

Q: How do you know when you're in a Jewish home?

A:

Spoiler:
There's a fork in the sugar bowl.

gates would not have gotten arrested if he were to do what he was told. gates asked the officer why am i being asked to step out is it because im black ? man please the same rules and law goes to everyone. i dont know why they have to take everything towards race.

all he had to do is just step outside as asked so the officers can investigate the break in. they were not accusing gates of the break in or nothing they just need folks to leave so they can find evidence and clues and stuff.

but he wanted to keep arguing with the officer. well its gates that acted STUPIDLY

Yes, they were accusing him of breaking in. The cop also had no legal standing to arrest him considering he didn't break the law at all.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Yes, they were accusing him of breaking in. The cop also had no legal standing to arrest him considering he didn't break the law at all.

Originally posted by chomperx9
still if you didnt do anything wrong then you shoudlnt have anything to worry about if an officer asks you nicely to step outside. he wasnt gonna arrest him or nothing at 1st he was probably just going to ask some questions. if a black officer came in my place asking me step out im gonna listen if i know i didnt do anything that i got nothin to worry about. and im not gonna accuse of him of race or nothing.

You're missing the point.

When Gates was arrested he had not broken the law. The cop was completely out of line. If Gates had shot at him, sure, but yelling at a cop is not illegal.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You're missing the point.

When Gates was arrested he had not broken the law. The cop was completely out of line. If Gates had shot at him, sure, but yelling at a cop is not illegal.

last year i got pulled over for speeding. officer thought i was some punk with drugs or something cause i look like a young adult. he asked me to step out of the car and had to face flat against my car and he searched me and my car. he let me go. i had no clue why i was searched but i had nothing to do worry cause i know i didnt have anything on me. and if i didnt step out of the vehicle as told he could have taken me in.

Originally posted by chomperx9
still if you didnt do anything wrong then you shoudlnt have anything to worry about if an officer asks you nicely to step outside.

The constitution of your country is supposed to protect you from exactly what you are saying.

Your founding fathers would be appalled by that statement.

Originally posted by chomperx9
refusing to obey an order from an officer can lead towards arrest.

last year i got pulled over for speeding. officer thought i was some punk with drugs or something cause i look like a young adult. he asked me to step out of the car and had to face flat against my car and he searched me and my car. he let me go. i had no clue why i was searched but i had nothing to do worry cause i know i didnt have anything on me. and if i didnt step out of the vehicle as told he could have taken me in.

You did not have to consent to a search, dude.

You could have said, "I don't have anything I shouldn't. I do not consent to a search."

Yes, you can say that.

In Gates' case, he could have said, "look at my family pictures all over the house. Then GTFO out of my house." If I were in a pissy mood, I might say something like that to a police officer who was being stubborn or idiotic.

However, Gates should have never let the officer in. That was his right. Or maybe the officer kind of manipulated his way in, as they try to do from time to time. "Well, if you have nothing to hide, then there's no harm in my coming in." Or, "no harm in me searching your vehicle."

Here's a super shitty story for you:

My coworker, the same one who couldn't get into Julliard, despite being the better candidate, because he wasn't black, had a search encounter that was shitty to no end.

He was traveling across a few states, coming back home from visiting his parents.

He was pulled over. A routine stop that bored cops do or are required to do every now and then.

My coworker, knowing he didn't do anything wrong, was a tiny bit irritated, but was polite. When the officer approached his window, he asked for license and registration, immediately. My coworker complied. After furnishing the requested, as the officer looked at it by his window, he asked why he was pulled over.

This is when things got shitty.

The cop didn't like this or something and he started being a jerk.

After he couldn't find anything wrong with the insurance or registration, he told my coworker that he was going to search the vehicle for drugs. My coworker, being a smart educated libertarian leaning person, said that he does not consent to a search and seizure because he has nothing. The officer said that if he didn't have anything to hide, then there's nothing to worry about. He then told him to get out of the vehicle and stand by his squad car.

My coworker told him that he will not exit the vehicle and that he has no reason to hold him further. He reiterated that he did consent to a search.

The cop said, "oh, we'll see about that. I'm going to get the dogs up here after you. What do you think about that smartass?"

My coworker said it would be a waste of time. (He's a Mormon. 😐 )

It took an hour for the dog unit to get there. The dogs, tore of his upholstery, biting and sniffing his car up. (A brand spanking new Suburu Forrester.) When the obviously couldn't find drugs, the drug dog cops packed back up and left.

During this time, my coworker was demanding that officers name and badge number that violated him, both their times, and his vehicle. He refused, at first, until my coworker threatened to call the local station and give them the squad car number. The cop gave up his information.

My coworker sued that local police department (rather, the city, I presume) for all damages to his vehicle.

It took almost a year. But he got all his money in damages plus a little bit extra.

Originally posted by dadudemon
However, Gates should have never let the officer in. That was his right. Or maybe the officer kind of manipulated his way in, as they try to do from time to time. "Well, if you have nothing to hide, then there's no harm in my coming in." Or, "no harm in me searching your vehicle."

afaik, responding to a 911 call (which is what happened here, right?) gives the officer probable cause to enter the home.

Originally posted by dadudemon
It took an hour for the dog unit to get there. The dogs, tore of his upholstery, biting and sniffing his car up. (A brand spanking new Suburu Forrester.) When the obviously couldn't find drugs, the drug dog cops packed back up and left.

Damn, up here if dogs find anything before probable cause, it is an illegal search.

Can cops down there really just arbitrarily subject people to drug-dog searches? or would anything they found have to be thrown out in court?

Originally posted by inimalist
afaik, responding to a 911 call (which is what happened here, right?) gives the officer probable cause to enter the home.

Damn it.

You're right.

But could they have entered if he furnished, immediately, his driver's license through the door?

Originally posted by inimalist
Damn, up here if dogs find anything before probable cause, it is an illegal search.

Can cops down there really just arbitrarily subject people to drug-dog searches? or would anything they found have to be thrown out in court?

I don't know how that works.

If the dogs find something...then they are charged, I'd assume.

If they smell something, then that gives them probable cause, I guess.

The term doesn't even exist.

Genetically speaking of course.

Your are more likely related to someone outside your "race" than you are inside your "race".

Originally posted by Dr. Leg Kick
Your are more likely related to someone outside your "race" than you are inside your "race".

Excluding, people like parents I assume.