Originally posted by Wild Shadow
none of that is as impressive as it sounds believe if you guys look at the respect thread you would agree... it is the same as DS/bats when they name what they have done to supes, flash and the rest of the JLA
you don't think restraining a guy who has moved planets like they were mere toys impressive? let me ask you, has anyone ELSE done that and lived to tell the tale? has any human shattered an indestructible object? has any MA gone toe to toe with a Daxamite? nope, not Batman or Richard Dragon. Has any MA created an earthquake just by stomping his foot?
Val wins this. get over it.
Originally posted by Prep-ManThose also aren't current Karate Kid, are they?
you don't think restraining a guy who has moved planets like they were mere toys impressive? let me ask you, has anyone ELSE done that and lived to tell the tale? has any human shattered an indestructible object? has any MA gone toe to toe with a Daxamite? nope, not Batman or Richard Dragon. Has any MA created an earthquake just by stomping his foot?Val wins this. get over it.
Deathstroke has intercepted Flash and overcome Wonder Woman's lasso.
Batman has kicked Captain Marvel back into his kid form, Billy.
Captain America has gone toe to toe with Hulk and won.
etc, etc
Originally posted by Prep-Man
no, it was a special grappling hold that he learned from another civilization. just like in real battles.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
dude no amount of skill can allow you to hold some one a million times your strength........I bet you think Black panther arm baring silver sufer fine as well........
the hold was designed for metas like superboy. it didn't last, though. superboy was going to get out of it. still impressive that he did it to begin with. val has studied and mastered all forms of fighting in the galaxy/universe.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
the hold was designed for metas like superboy. it didn't last, though. superboy was going to get out of it. still impressive that he did it to begin with. val has studied and mastered all forms of fighting in the galaxy/universe.
Originally posted by Prep-ManPre-crisis feats don't count when talking about current characters.
surfer is nowhere near the strength of pre-crisis bricks. come on.
As for Surfer, he can amp himself up to be up there. Not tossing planets around, but certainly more powerful than any human arms can restrain.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
dude it pis, it no better then black panther arm baring silver surfer ir stupid and rediculous, even punisher striaght up strangle tiger shark before....ect.
whether you like it or not, it has happened. more than one occasion. it's all skill. that's val armorr's shtick. it began with his FIRST appearance and it's still going on to this day.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
whether you like it or not, it has happened. more than one occasion. it's all skill. that's val armorr's shtick. it began with his FIRST appearance and it's still going on to this day.
lets see theses other events.
it WAS skill. it wasn't strength at all.
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Originally posted by BattlehammerKK's holds and throws are magnified by the strength of his opponent. They utilize their own power against them. That's how he can hang with Superboy, or throw around Ultra-boy like a rag-doll.
I dont care about the rest, but you pretending that KK holding some one liek superboy with skill is assurd and is infact pis.lets see theses other events.
Him hanging around with the heavy hitters and being one of the best of the group offensively is something common and part of his character since the very beginning.
Originally posted by Juntai
KK's holds and throws are magnified by the strength of his opponent. They utilize their own power against them. That's how he can hang with Superboy, or throw around Ultra-boy like a rag-doll.Him hanging around with the heavy hitters and being one of the best of the group offensively is something common and part of his character since the very beginning.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
it WAS skill. it wasn't strength at all.http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/adventure368p04.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/adventure368p05.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/Adventure378-16.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/SuperboytheLegionofSuperheroes245-1.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/KarateKid12-07.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/KarateKid12-10.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/KarateKid12-11.jpg
nice but were tlaking about current KK
Originally posted by Juntai
KK's holds and throws are magnified by the strength of his opponent. They utilize their own power against them. That's how he can hang with Superboy, or throw around Ultra-boy like a rag-doll.Him hanging around with the heavy hitters and being one of the best of the group offensively is something common and part of his character since the very beginning.
Ding! Ding! Ding!
Originally posted by Battlehammer
nice but were tlaking about current KK
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