Anakin Skywalker vs. Galen Marek/Starkiller

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It's Clone Wars logic. Never fails.

Originally posted by emoboy13
starkiler, becuz he beat vader and vader is anikin!!!

Sup Neb?

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
This is a wrecked and ruined man describing his shattered body and life. You think he's going to be giving an accurate report? He hates himself.

Vader's mobility and agility took a nose dive, but his midichlorian count didn't drop, and his full immersion in to the Dark Side gave his command of the Force a huge boost.

Oh but it did. His Force abilities were pale in comparison to what he could have done as an organic Anakin Skywalker.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I can't tell if you're Neb or not, so if you are: Hey! And if you're not:

Midichlorian count is per cell, not per body. Anakin could have only a head and vital organs left and still have the same 20,000+ per blood cell, brain cell etc.

And Vader had the capacity and power to perform Lightning, but had he done so, his mechanical limbs would have acted as a conduit between the electricity and his body, f*cking with his life-support's circuitry. And yes, Vader was far more powerful in the Force than Anakin ever was, but Vader's potential took a nose dive. His own psyche and paradigm held him back---due to his actions circa RotS.

But collectively, it would decrease wouldn't it?

Also, it wasn't just his mental limitations and stuff, it was the physical hurt and damage that took away most of his force powers. He was a pale shadow of his former self; lacking the panache, lacking the confidence, lacking the fitness, lacking the robustness, simply no longer what he was supposed to be.

how powerful you are is only reflected in per cell midi's though. THe total number is irrelevant. Its why Yoda is more powerful in force than say Lowbacca, despite the fact that Lowbacca, being 3x as large, is probably going to have a more powerful TOTAL number of midichlorians.

Starkiller wins. He beat Vader, who has a powerful shell that protects him. He can thrash Anakin with little to no trouble.

Originally posted by Annus Mirabilis
But collectively, it would decrease wouldn't it?
Total number is irrelevant. Since all lifeforms have midichlorians, would not the biggest lifeform be the most powerful? Since that isn't the case... there's a reason why 2-foot tall Yoda is one of the strongest---and it has nothing to do with his biomass.

Originally posted by Annus Mirabilis
Also, it wasn't just his mental limitations and stuff, it was the physical hurt and damage that took away most of his force powers. He was a pale shadow of his former self; lacking the panache, lacking the confidence, lacking the fitness, lacking the robustness, simply no longer what he was supposed to be.
That's true. To quote myself:

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
This is a wrecked and ruined man describing his shattered body and life. You think he's going to be giving an accurate report? He hates himself.

Vader's mobility and agility took a nose dive, but his midichlorian count didn't drop, and his full immersion in to the Dark Side gave his command of the Force a huge boost. Two decades of action and Sith tutelage and Vader circa TFU and the OT was far more powerful in the Force than Anakin was.

Saber - Anakin
Force - Anakin
All-Out - Anakin

Every conceivable confrontation - Anakin

Reason: Galen is too consumed with rage and hate to actually kill Anakin, the reverse is not true.

Example: In Unleashed 2, every saber lock Marek blocks Anakin's single saber with a cross of his paired sabers. He is too enraged to simply parry with one and end Anakin with the other.

Example 2: Nearly every word Anakin utters sends Galen into a blind fury. This of course lends Marek incredible power, however Anakin retains his higher reasoning and simply side steps every hammer blow.

Concession: Yes, Galen is at least in my opinion more powerful than Anakin and Anakin while able to kill Marek, is generally not able to defeat him in order to do so. Why I settled on Anakin in the end is that Galen would like the candle that burns bright... exhaust himself before Anakin and then loose. SABER

FORCE: Anakin focused almost no attention on the non-martial aspects of the force. The only thing it seems he did master was defending himself from it enabling him to force a physical confrontation. Ergo, Anakin need only wear Galen down then kill him with his saber, and if the contest is strictly one of force use then same thing except he throws the saber.

All-Out: Anakin - "I killed your daddy."
Galen - *Incoherent rage*
SFX - *clash, clash, clash, sizzle, thump, zwoosh*
Anakin - "I killed him! I kill him like an ANIMAL!!"
Galen - *still dead*
Anakin - "An ANIMAL!!" *sobs*

The end.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
'Since all lifeforms have midichlorians'

Not entirely accurate. Midichlorians for one are organic organisms ergo are life and do not have themselves, but that's just arguing semantics. My actual point was going to be the Yuuzhong Vong. Which have no presence in the force, midichlorians they haz none.

Russel's paradox?

Originally posted by Gluttony
Not entirely accurate. Midichlorians for one are organic organisms ergo are life and do not have themselves, but that's just arguing semantics. My actual point was going to be the Yuuzhong Vong. Which have no presence in the force, midichlorians they haz none.
Out of curiosity, what source says the Vong don't have them?

Originally posted by Gluttony
Not entirely accurate. Midichlorians for one are organic organisms ergo are life and do not have themselves, but that's just arguing semantics. My actual point was going to be the Yuuzhong Vong. Which have no presence in the force, midichlorians they haz none.

Are you saying, when Ulic Kel Droma or Callista were cut from the Force, their midichlorians were burned out? Or, implant in Onimi's head created midichlorians that allowed him to use Force?

It's more likely that the ability to communicate with said midi-chlorians was blocked or severed rather then them being burned out. After all, midi-chlorians are supposively tied with all life. The Vong, **** their infernal names, make no sense in context of all other EU.

I'd say Nihilus' Giga-Drain would be the midicholrian-murdering move. Its referred to as an absence in the Force.

On the other hand, the Exile was cut-off from it and was still able to form Force-bonds etc. That always confused me if the Force was supposed to be completely dead to her.

Yeah, must be more of a listening thing in her case. She was overwhelmed by the cries of death on Malachor V, etc. Whereas Nihilus and Vitiate just NOMZ midi-chlorians.

Inconsistencies among crap.

Yet still here we linger.

To be fair, I come here mainly to make sure none of you have started a junta.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
It's more likely that the ability to communicate with said midi-chlorians was blocked or severed rather then them being burned out. After all, midi-chlorians are supposively tied with all life. The Vong, **** their infernal names, make no sense in context of all other EU.

That's basically what I was implying. And Onimi's case proves that they do have midicloreans.It's just their Force sensitivity was blocked by original home planet.