Gorgon vs. Dracula

Originally posted by Original Smurph
No he wasn't... Gorgon beat Wolverine around like a rag doll.

Gorgon made Elektra look incredibly slow, and recently took out a speedster with ease.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Who said Gorgon wants to challenge himself? Maybe he's perfectly happy winning with ease.

Wolverine was able to challenge him? Lol? He was laughing off Wolverine's attempts and only used the stare when he became bored.

Gorgon has never needed to use the stare. If he needs to use it, he would.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Who said Gorgon wants to challenge himself? Maybe he's perfectly happy winning with ease.

Wolverine was able to challenge him? Lol? He was laughing off Wolverine's attempts and only used the stare when he became bored.

Gorgon has never needed to use the stare. If he needs to use it, he would.

Wolverine was able to give Gorgon a bit of trouble in there last fight, it wasnt a total stomp.

Originally posted by Trackz
does gorgon remove the cloth from his eyes in every fight? no. he BARELY does it and when e does do it it is usally just to remove fodder so he can move on to the real challenges, he was recently beaten down by stonewall i believe in secret warriors, and he didn't use his stone stare.

drac has rudimentary knowledge of gorgon and gorgon has to look someone in the eyes to turn them to stone. if he stays mist, he HAS NO EYES. he could surround gorgon, turn partially solid to strike (just an arm, for example). he can actually summon lightning, call a thousand rats to swarm gorgon and distract him. drac has one-shotted wolverine AND caught colossus's fist and one-shotted him too.

if gorgon keeps his glasses on as he usually does, drac could could likely play with his mind (unless gorgon's mental defenses>surfer's). there's no reason whatsoever for drac to get close enough for the stare to work if he thinks it COULD affect him. he is undead and a powerfully magical being. i'm not saying he IS immune. i'm just saying that since we've never seen the stare used on someone like drac, we can't say one way or the other what could happen.

Originally posted by Trackz
does gorgon remove the cloth from his eyes in every fight? no. he BARELY does it and when e does do it it is usally just to remove fodder so he can move on to the real challenges, he was recently beaten down by stonewall i believe in secret warriors, and he didn't use his stone stare.

Spoliers dammit, hopefully i'll be getting that issue tommorrow.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Spoliers dammit, hopefully i'll be getting that issue tommorrow.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4562/gorgonvsshield3.jpg

Notice how the only things that are stone are the SHIELD agents. Hell even their guns arent stone.

As for this fight gorgon wins, Drac has not shown any mist abilties in years maybe even decades to assume he has them or will uses them is laughable.

Gorgon is extremely fast he flat out easily tagged a speedstir who remark was "no one that fast", gorgon replied "the gorgon is that fast". He also a telepath, rediculously skilled, nothign slows him down, he superhuman speed atleast the speed of thought and made elektra look like a child in speed and over all abiltiy, he a monster.

dracula.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
As for this fight gorgon wins, Drac has not shown any mist abilties in years maybe even decades to assume he has them or will uses them is laughable.

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so, you find it "laughable" and are disregarding a power he has used . . . . literally dozens and dozens of times in his history just because YOU don't think he's used it "recently". 😐 i haven't seen ss open a black hole in a while. we just say he can't do that anymore? thor hasn't used a god blast in quite some time either, we eliminate that too? that is utterly ridiculous BH and if someone used that kind of logic AGAINST you in a debate, you'd shout them down and probably insult them. prove the power was eliminated from his powerset if you find it so "laughable". good luck with that. otherwise, OF COURSE he can turn to mist and solidify only parts of his body. he'd done it so often in battles it would be out of character for him NOT to do it.

so, i suppose you want to disregard the fact that drac could summon a storm and use lightning to attack him too? what about the fact that drac can fly? we disregard that too, or his ability to summon a hundred wolves or a thousand rats to distract and swarm gorgon in the middle of the fight? please.

if gorgon wins it's because you've neutered dracula and conveniently disregarded his powers. this isn't a sword fight, or specifically h2h. drac has battled the surfer and nearly killed classic dr strange, but you think he's dumb enough to get turned to stone? drac has too many powers for gorgon to counter, and since gorgon has no range attacks and drac can attack from a distance this means drac wins 10/10.

Originally posted by leonidas
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so, you find it "laughable" and are disregarding a power he has used . . . . literally [b]dozens and dozens of times in his history just because YOU don't think he's used it "recently". 😐 i haven't seen ss open a black hole in a while. we just say he can't do that anymore? thor hasn't used a god blast in quite some time either, we eliminate that too? that is utterly ridiculous BH and if someone used that kind of logic AGAINST you in a debate, you'd shout them down and probably insult them. prove the power was eliminated from his powerset if you find it so "laughable". good luck with that. otherwise, OF COURSE he can turn to mist and solidify only parts of his body. he'd done it so often in battles it would be out of character for him NOT to do it.

so, i suppose you want to disregard the fact that drac could summon a storm and use lightning to attack him too? what about the fact that drac can fly? we disregard that too, or his ability to summon a hundred wolves or a thousand rats to distract and swarm gorgon in the middle of the fight? please.

if gorgon wins it's because you've neutered dracula and conveniently disregarded his powers. this isn't a sword fight, or specifically h2h. drac has battled the surfer and nearly killed classic dr strange, but you think he's dumb enough to get turned to stone? drac has too many powers for gorgon to counter, and since gorgon has no range attacks and drac can attack from a distance this means drac wins 10/10. [/B]

Originally posted by Battlehammer
As for this fight gorgon wins, Drac has not shown any mist abilties in years maybe even decades to assume he has them or will uses them is laughable.

Gorgon is extremely fast he flat out easily tagged a speedstir who remark was "no one that fast", gorgon replied "the gorgon is that fast". He also a telepath, rediculously skilled, nothign slows him down, he superhuman speed atleast the speed of thought and made elektra look like a child in speed and over all abiltiy, he a monster.

and he used his mist about 3-4 years ago in his fight with apocalypse and has only been used in two stories since.

yeah, here's the scene against apocalypse. not sure that is "recent" enough though for you BH. 🙄

http://img33.imageshack.us/i/apocalypsevsdracula4013.jpg/

"laughable" that he would use mist-form?? seriously?? c'mon man . . .

and here is a scan of him summoning and using a lightning bolt to attack with:

http://img229.imageshack.us/i/apocalypsevsdracula4009.jpg/

in mist gorgon cannot damage him, while drac could partially become solid and still strike and with lightning drac can kill him. if gorgon stays in character and keeps his glasses on drac can probably control him mentally (unless gorgon's mental defense>ss).

drac is seriously being underestimated here . . .

well we also see, it's in Draculas character to want to fight a worthy opponent which is why i had these two go against each other, Dracula is more powerful, but like against Blade and Black Knight he will fight rather than use his abilities

actually he probably couldn't use his abilities in MI:13 against them since they were in space I believe.

Hmm yeah I guess Drac wins theres a fair amount of proof that Gorgon wont use his stare.

I was mistaken, I retract my earlier statement, but dam leo you dont gotta be so angery about it, what did I do to you?

though laughable was a term I should not have used, your reaction to it was a bit over the top.

on a side note why does drac never uses any of his other powers asside from physical ones vs blade?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
on a side note why does drac never uses any of his other powers asside from physical ones vs blade?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
on a side note why does drac never uses any of his other powers asside from physical ones vs blade?