DC strength levels, Where exactly is Supes?

Originally posted by Philosophía
I'm of opinion that if Superman goes in the state of mind he did when he confronted the Imperiex Probes alongside Doomsday, he could match Superboy Prime, given the increase in power he received during that state and how he has performed against Superboy Prime up until now (Prime was most definitley superior, but I don't think it's something Superman couldn't cover when going all-out).

But maybe that's just me. ermm

Originally posted by darkfan76
Why is that Supergirl and Power Girl are not considered as equals? 😕

Originally posted by xJLxKing
It's stated that Superman and MM are equal in strength.
BA>CM but they are almost identical.

Yet MM cannot defeat Billy or Ba. In fact ba rips the shit outta him everytime they meet. BTW where is it stated that MM is supermans equal?

Martian Manhunter has beaten Black Adam

Originally posted by zeel
Yet MM cannot defeat Billy or Ba. In fact ba rips the shit outta him everytime they meet. BTW where is it stated that MM is supermans equal?

I think MM did beat BA.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
They stated a few times actually. But not Superman's equal as in powerl only in strength. The most recent one was in blackest night, where MM states, "I am as powerful as Superman...Why does everyone forget that?"

I think MM did beat BA.

Powerful and strength are simillar but different concepts.

E.G. charles Xavier is incredibly powerful, but not very strong.

I think Martian Manhunter was referring to his array of abilities considered all together, not his actual strength level.

When it comes to brute force and endurance, no one considred a hero really matches Superman.

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
Powerful and strength are simillar but different concepts.

E.G. charles Xavier is incredibly powerful, but not very strong.

I think Martian Manhunter was referring to his array of abilities considered all together, not his actual strength level.

When it comes to brute force and endurance, no one considred a hero really matches Superman.

I can agree with this statement

Where's Mon el?

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Where's Mon el?

Floundering in the realms of uncertainty...

Where is the number two ?

Originally posted by darkfan76
Sort them from strongest to weakest...

Superman
Supergirl
Power Girl
Wonder Woman
Martian Manhunter
Captain Marvel
Aquaman (Under water)
Orion
Darkseid
Mongul
Doomsday
Hades
Etrigan
Bizarro
Grundy
Lobo
General Zod
Ultraman
Superboy (Conner)
Superboy Prime
Kalibak
Black Adam

Well, for me:
Superman = 100

Supergirl (Kara???) = 65
Power Girl = 50-55
Wonder Woman = 75
Martian Manhunter = 90
Superboy (Conner) = 35
SB Prime = 500 (5X Superman)
General Zod = 90-100
Kalibak - 40-50???
Black Adam - 95
Black Adam WW3 - 250
Cap Marvel - 95
Lobo - 70
Mongul - 85
Ultraman = 100
Bizarro = 100
Hades = 250-300
Orion = 90
Darkseid = 90 (Modern One)
Classic Darkseid = 1000

Originally posted by xJLxKing
It's stated that Superman and MM are equal in strength.
BA>CM but they are almost identical.

its stated, doesnt make it true, and its also been stated on panel that he is no superman. MM=/=supes.

I prefer the "normal" Superman = 100
(just Strength)

Superman, really all out 300, normal 100
Supergirl, 80
Power Girl 80
Wonder Woman 95
Martian Manhunter 100
Captain Marvel 100
Aquaman (Under water) 10
Orion 110 (120 pissed off)
Darkseid 120
Mongul 90
Doomsday 100-150
Hades dunno
Etrigan dunno
Bizarro 95
Grundy 60-105
Lobo 70-95
General Zod 80-100
Ultraman 100
Superboy (Conner) 60
Superboy Prime 300
Kalibak 99
Black Adam 100

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
I prefer the "normal" Superman = 100
(just Strength)

Superman, really all out 300, normal 100
Supergirl, 80
Power Girl 80
Wonder Woman 95
Martian Manhunter 100
Captain Marvel 100
Aquaman (Under water) 10
Orion 110 (120 pissed off)
Darkseid 120
Mongul 90
Doomsday 100-150
Hades dunno
Etrigan dunno
Bizarro 95
Grundy 60-105
Lobo 70-95
General Zod 80-100
Ultraman 100
Superboy (Conner) 60
Superboy Prime 300
Kalibak 99
Black Adam 100

i'd agree that SM piss> SM normal
but as strong as SBP??

why is orion above BA/CM
why is bizzarro below SM?

Originally posted by ankur29
i'd agree that SM piss> SM normal
but as strong as SBP??

why is orion above BA/CM
why is bizzarro below SM?

Yeah, they are cut from the same stuff in the end. But we still have to see Superman going all out.

Orion is above Superman as well, who is BA/CM's equal.

Bizzarro was defeated by Zod. He performed really bad, he lacks the feats to be on par with Supes IMHO. Except of this he is just an imperfect clone.

Ok, here i go. This is in terms of pure punching/lifting power:

Superman/Superboy Prime/Ultraman/Doomsday
Captain Marvel/Darkseid/Orion/Black Adam/Bizarro/Lobo
Wonder Woman/Martian Manhunter/Mongul/Etrigan
Supergirl/Power Girl/General Zod/Kalibak/Grundy (depending on version)
Superboy (Conner)
Aquaman (Under water)

Hades - no idea.

lmfao at Zod's placement.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
lmfao at Zod's placement.

yeah, i put zod in the wrong place. my bad.

Superman, Superboy Prime

Doomsday, General Zod

Darkseid, Orion

Lobo, Ultraman, Bizarro

Captain Marvel, Black Adam, Supergirl

Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Power Girl

Mongul, Etrigan, Grundy, Kalibak

Superboy(Conner)

Aquaman(Under water)

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Hades - Not sure. I would have to go run through WW again, but I really don't feel like it... so **** him.

there is this Toy series by DC, in that Captain Marvel ( Shazam) strength is 84, Black Adam is 80, Supergirl 90, Bizzaro 90, Wondergirl 70. Can somebody know wat is Superman's strength in that series?

DC gods are strong, but Hades rarely uses his strength, just his powers, so you won't get specific feats.

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I'm surprised so many people put Power Girl and Supergirl at the same level in these lists, or Supergirl higher. PG is sort of a more mature, more musclely SG (who focuses more on speed and has a thinner build).

Superman all out = SBP
DoomsDay
Orion = Darkside
Grundy
MartianManhunter = Captain Marvel = Superman (standard) = Ultraman = Black Adam = General Zod
Kalibak = WonderWoman = Bizarro = Lobo = Etrigan = Mongul
Supergirl = Powergirl
Superboy (Conner)
Aquaman (Under water)

Hades I don't know maybe like Grundy.