Real comparative Politics vs. American Perceptions

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I'm pretty sure that's not how fascism works.

Good Fascism anyway. sans violence 😉

Think good thoughts.

Originally posted by King Kandy
It differs but what do you mean southwest? California? Because that state probably has one of the most varied political spectrums in the country.

You'd get a good cross-section of political views of the U.S. from California, that much I'll give. I know that New England folks are different from Southern people.

Southwest? I mean Arizona and New Mexico along with southern Nevada.

Of course there's regional differences... I think it was clear this is directed at "perceptions" caused by fox-style conservative rhetoric.

Originally posted by FE Expert
You'd get a good cross-section of political views of the U.S. from California, that much I'll give. I know that New England folks are different from Southern people.

Southwest? I mean Arizona and New Mexico along with southern Nevada.

lol, so basically, to you, red state = dumbasses?

Originally posted by inimalist
lol, so basically, to you, red state = dumbasses?

Sounds more like "not same as blue state", which would be true.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Sounds more like "not same as blue state", which would be true.

i refuse to interpret reasonable conclusions from his words

Originally posted by King Kandy
Of course there's regional differences... I think it was clear this is directed at "perceptions" caused by fox-style conservative rhetoric.

At least, I'm spared from anything of the sort where I live, or otherwise not have it as intensely as Fox News does.

For the record, is CNN any less right-leaning than Fox News?

Originally posted by FE Expert
At least, I'm spared from anything of the sort where I live, or otherwise not have it as intensely as Fox News does.

For the record, is CNN any less right-leaning than Fox News?

Yes, but that doesn't make them less biased.

What US media could be less biased than Fox and CNN? CBS? PBS? C-SPAN?

At least, CBC (and its French counterpart, Radio-Canada), CPAC and TVA are nowhere near as biased as these two stations. TQS may be somewhat closer (and right-leaning by Quebecer standards, which could be New England-like if not more leftist) to a CNN-level of bias.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Yes, but that doesn't make them less biased.

Less biased and less entertaining.

a saltshaker to shake at the vid-screen is mandatory when you tune in to faux news

Originally posted by FE Expert
What US media could be less biased than Fox and CNN? CBS? PBS? C-SPAN?

At least, CBC (and its French counterpart, Radio-Canada), CPAC and TVA are nowhere near as biased as these two stations. TQS may be somewhat closer (and right-leaning by Quebecer standards, which could be New England-like if not more leftist) to a CNN-level of bias.

C-SPAN, but they don't report the news they just show it in the blandest way possible.

It's pretty much impossible to objectively decide who's biased on issues where reasonable people can disagree. Not to mention that a lot of things that seem like bias can come from internal politics.

Originally posted by FE Expert
At least, I'm spared from anything of the sort where I live, or otherwise not have it as intensely as Fox News does.

For the record, is CNN any less right-leaning than Fox News?

My perceptions of the current U.S. slate:

Republicans: Center-right/far-right (with the most conservative among them being close to extreme-right if not extremists outright)

Democrats: Centrist/center-right (really depend which one you pick; if you're lucky to fall on the most liberal of them, even center-left)

OK, you may disagree, but the only real RINOs in the Senate are the Republicans from Maine. Olympia Snow and Susan Collins are true centrists to me. I mean, Maine is bordered by center-left-dominated provinces; Quebec to the northwest, New Brunswick to the northeast, Nova Scotia as the southeastern sea border.

Oh absolutely. I don't think the US is necessarily more conservative though. I think the real liberals have been whipped into submission by the fox team's tactics of making people think liberals aren't true americans, and that's why they aren't uniting.

You really think Canadian media have a less important role to play in engineering the Canadian population's thought modes than American media does for the US?

I never said anything of the sort. I don't know anything about Canadian media with which to make such an assumption. I do know that they don't have the same conservative hangups the US does so obviously something's different.

I think Fox News and the Republican Party and it's corporate overlords are testing the waters to see how quickly they can get america to accept fascism

Because there clearly wasn't a better time in the last 100 years for doing that.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
I think Fox News and the Republican Party and it's corporate overlords are testing the waters to see how quickly they can get america to accept fascism

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Because there clearly wasn't a better time in the last 100 years for doing that.

Well Coughlin, the Rush Limbaugh of the 20's and 30's was chased off the air for supporting Hitler and the Holocaust and the Business Plot was foiled by a whistle blower, but yeah, corporatism hasn't been this strong in the US since before the first red scare.