JSA vs. X-Men

Originally posted by jalek moye
and then Damage blows her up 🙂

and Steel ends up just slightly annoyed

i agree he will be annoyed when he's in space with no one to help him down besides the x-men.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yeah but if Colossus can wrangle up a free second to lend a hand, I'm sure a "fast ball special" would do the trick. I'm not saying that X-Men JSA win mind you(because I know virtually nothing about most of the JSA lineup), but the two of them have used the tactic so frequently and with such success that it should pretty much be considered standard in forum fights.

oh, yeah, of course, that's always possible. still don't know if it would pierce steel though... he's taken a hell of a lot in terms of damage... anything's possible, though...

Originally posted by Original Smurph
JSA

Mr. Terrific
Dr. Mid-Nite
Sand
Hawkman
Hawkgirl
Damage
Stargirl
Wildcat
Cyclone
Citizen Steel

vs

X-men

Cyclops
Archangel
Nightcrawler
Colossus
Polaris
Sunfire
Wolverine
X-23

Not only would Polaris be able to use Steel as a weapon, she may also be able to disarm Stargirl. And like stated, JSA dont have any shields, UNLESS the T-Sphere's can do it. Damage, isnt going to risk doing any major aoe attacks unless its his last resort, and even then, a shield will null it.

The JSA team is gimped here. Midnight doesnt do much battle wise, and will be taken out by any of the X-Men melee fighters. Cyclone is good, but shes inexperienced and may not be that much of a threat, however one of the more threatening on the team considering Steel, Stargirl, Midnight and possibly Terrific would be almost useless. Imo, that is.

like polaris, sand has the potential to take down most of the ground x-men. just by crumbling the ground underneath them.

does sandman still have his guns? he can put polaris to sleep.

Originally posted by jasofisc
ok but can he do it before he's fired? I'll have to check that out. not to mention i don't think sand will run away from this fight. And if he does he has to come back some time and when he does he's glass. Sand is a beast and can beat every other x-man when he's not jobbering except for current polaris

before he's fired? what do you mean? sand has complete control over his body and can move freely into the earth.

able to travel through the earth as easily as one would swim through water.

Also, Sandman can fly, right? I believe so, and that may possibly help him to get off his sleeper shot, IF Polaris doesnt see him coming in. Again, IF.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
before he's fired? what do you mean? sand has complete control over his body and can move freely into the earth.

sorry i meant fried not fired. and sand does have that ablity to move though sand as easy as water yes but he has been hit several times before he's gottent he chance.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Also, Sandman can fly, right? I believe so, and that may possibly help him to get off his sleeper shot, IF Polaris doesnt see him coming in. Again, IF.

i don't think so i think your thinking of terra. even if he can polaris bolts have a much much higher range then sands gas guns.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
like polaris, sand has the potential to take down most of the ground x-men. just by crumbling the ground underneath them.

does sandman still have his guns? he can put polaris to sleep.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Not only would Polaris be able to use Steel as a weapon, she may also be able to disarm Stargirl. And like stated, JSA dont have any shields, UNLESS the T-Sphere's can do it. Damage, isnt going to risk doing any major aoe attacks unless its his last resort, and even then, a shield will null it.

The JSA team is gimped here. Midnight doesnt do much battle wise, and will be taken out by any of the X-Men melee fighters. Cyclone is good, but shes inexperienced and may not be that much of a threat, however one of the more threatening on the team considering Steel, Stargirl, Midnight and possibly Terrific would be almost useless. Imo, that is.

I totaly agree

Originally posted by Goddess of Fury
SunFire or Colossus Turns sand into glass or scatters him so far apart that it takes him hours to pull it back together.

If he reforms from Diana's punch instantly, he would do the same for Colossus, and Cyclops would probably take a second longer. If he needs to reform at all. He can exist as a sandstorm, so it's no big deal.

As for Sunfire, he'll have to hit Sand first. Sand recently travelled between New York and the Congo in a couple of seconds. He's agile and skilled enough to avoid anything short of an omni-directional blast, which Sunfire wouldn't use, and in which case Sand could simply disappear under the ground.

Sand can fly via becoming a sand storm, or levitating himself on one of his constructs, or something similar. He's done it before.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Sand can fly via becoming a sand storm, or levitating himself on one of his constructs, or something similar. He's done it before.

Thats what i mentioned in my last post.

Also, if sand is turned into glass, can he reform himself by using sand particles from elsewhere(like Iceman)?

Honestly, he, Cyclone and possibly Damage are the 3 that matter here most for JSA. However, even with that said, i think the X-Men take a majority.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Also, if sand is turned into glass, can he reform himself by using sand particles from elsewhere(like Iceman)?

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Colossus does what?

If he reforms from Diana's punch instantly, he would do the same for Colossus, and Cyclops would probably take a second longer. If he needs to reform at all. He can exist as a sandstorm, so it's no big deal.

As for Sunfire, he'll have to hit Sand first. Sand recently travelled between New York and the Congo in a couple of seconds. He's agile and skilled enough to avoid anything short of an omni-directional blast, which Sunfire wouldn't use, and in which case Sand could simply disappear under the ground.

Sand can fly via becoming a sand storm, or levitating himself on one of his constructs, or something similar. He's done it before.

i think the idea is that he's turned to glass before the shattering. if collosus were to just punch him the same think that happed to the ultra huminite controled WW would happen. by the way i should mention that WW was being controled by UH and wasn't at the level she is normally at. in the same comic superman is beaten by power girl. (not saying thought that your point isn't vald.

just because sand can now teleport doesn't mean he can't be hit by normal means. that like saying night crawaler can't be hit unless the person fighting him uses an omni directinal blast. all they really need to do is predict were he's going to turn up next.