Originally posted by id369
Has Magneto one shoted Top Tiers such Thor or Quasar? Because Dr. Light has, plus he benefits from superior speed to carry his attack.
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/8792/defenders01508nb1.jpg
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Evidently Magneto's control is very limited. He was unable to do anything to Mjolnir and helpless to resist when Thor absorbs his shield.
"Unable to do anything to Mjolnir"? I don't follow.
Effortlessly tosses away Mjolnir while Thor is still holding it:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/MightilyOats/Magneto87.jpg
Food for thought: Would that not be demonstrating Magneto being able to wrestle control over Mjolnir from Thor, considering Thor had it firmly in his grasp? Hmmm...
Seriously, I'd really like to know your definition of Magneto being "unable to do anything to Mjolnir," because it certainly isn't the same as my definition.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Light has already displayed greater control than anything Magneto has ever done, by controlling Wonder Girl's lasso.
Ehh... apples to oranges depending on what you're looking for.
I mean, Magneto hasn't really ever been put up against too many godlike things, but when he's been up against Thor, he was able to manipulate Mjolnir without too much trouble. He's also drained the Phoenix of her energies. I suppose shielding himself and Xavier from Galactus' energy feedback means... something, too.
Anyway, if you're looking at power scope and output, Light doesn't compare to Mags.
For example, I've never seen Dr. Light able to do something such as manipulating the magnetosphere in order to inhibit any long range telepathy. I've never seen Dr. Light able to pull entire volcanoes right up out of the ground. I've never seen Dr. Light able to disable every electronic device on the planet. I've never seen Dr. Light... you get the point.
Clear feats of power output that are >>> Light's.
Mags has also easily manipulated matter on a subatomic level, if you want to get into fine-tune manipulation.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Magneto was not able to do anything. He was able to stop a hammer throw, and like I said, completely different. That's shielding himself from a physical blow, not resisting absorption or controlling the actual hammer or the magic in it. COMPLETELY different from the events that transpired in Light vs Titans. And Light being Thor has nothing to do with this. The fact that you need to state that, only shows that you have a limited understanding of what we're trying to discuss here.
I'm gonna go ahead and throw the scans out there so we know exactly what you're referring too.
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/338/journeyintomystery10914gn5.jpg
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/149/journeyintomystery10915jb2.jpg
Basically, Magneto was caught blindsided and wasn't really able to retaliate/defend himself. Thor rushed in to attack when Magneto was at a disadvantaged position. Context is key.
Also, that was Magneto from the early 60's. Unlike Thor (at least his classic version), Magneto didn't have his most impressive feats in that era. Not even close.
It was the same Magneto that had his shields broken by Cyclops' blast. Lawlz.
It was the same Magneto that basically only had the power to control metal and make shields. K. Remember, he didn't even know he could access the EM spectrum until later in his history.
I'm not here to discuss Thor vs. Magneto, but if people use that instance as to why Thor is superior or why he'd win, it's faulty logic. And that's not me saying Magneto would beat Thor, either.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Light's control is so great that he was able to wrest control of the magical lightning inside the lasso created by Ares. Magneto has not done anything on this level, so naturally it's ridiculous to assume that he would be able to claim sovereignty over Arthur's light.
I'm not sure if you're suggesting Dr. Light wins this fight, and if you aren't, I'll apologize in advanced.
But if you are, and you're basing it off of that one feat only of Light's, that's completely asinine.