Originally posted by Galan007
and kubik has displayed more power on panel then galactus ever has - yet kubik still claimed that a seemingly average celestial's power was FAR greater [infinitely greater, in fact] than his own.if that truly is the case, galactus wouldn't stand a chance... no matter what his level.
And Kubik also claimed that his own Powerlevels was below Galactus own so...
And that is entirely disregarding Mephistos words on the Cosmic Containment Unit and Doom words on Galactus powerlevel in comparison to a Cosmic Containment unit.
Originally posted by Utrigita
And Kubik also claimed that his own Powerlevels was below Galactus own so...And that is entirely disregarding Mephistos words on the Cosmic Containment Unit and Doom words on Galactus powerlevel in comparison to a Cosmic Containment unit.
Agreed. Kubiks assessment was clearly off.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Agreed. Kubiks assessment was clearly off.
Ore the writers of the given arc, used a perfect opportunity to amp the entire cosmic Hierarchies powerlevel in one fell swoop. I think that we can agree on that neither of the beings that Kubik refereed to, is likely to go around and warping universes on a daily basis, I also think that we can agree on that the majority of the "high" end abstracts lacks a great portion of feats (Master Order and Lord Chaos to name a few), what better way to amp those beings powerlevel (without having to show them to do damage to a universe they are constantly trying to protect) then having Kubik compare himself as insignificant to them, do you really have?
I chalk it up mostly to Kubik comparing those beings to unrestricted cubes and cube beings. It's not really a fair comparison.
Do you really believe a Celestial or Galactus have the power or ability to stack universes on top of eachother? I sure don't. I think Marvel tried to downplay cubes alot through words because of the IG and what not yet a cubes feats are virtually identical to that of the IG.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
I chalk it up mostly to Kubik comparing those beings to unrestricted cubes and cube beings. It's not really a fair comparison.Do you really believe a Celestial or Galactus have the power or ability to stack universes on top of eachother? I sure don't. I think Marvel tried to downplay cubes alot through words because of the IG and what not yet a cubes feats are virtually identical to that of the IG.
Sorry what? Kubik compared those beings with himself. Mephisto stated that CCU is far above that of the sentient CCU and then Doom stated that the power of Galactus was much greater then that of a CCU.
So you are suggesting that we should pretend that Kubik had no idea what he was talking about when he made the assesment and that he was confused about both his own powerlevel as well as many others? Kubik never lost his feat, it haven't been altered ore downplayed in any way, what happened, from my point of view, was that those beings that can't do what Kubik did, because it wouldn't even be in their character, got a boost.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
No, my point is that none of those beings can do it whether they wanted to or not. A Celestial maybe, we've seen them warp reality before.
So we are going to in your opinion completely disregard Kubiks words pretending that he didn't know what he was talking about? And we have seen Doom with the power of Galactus warping reality.
Originally posted by Galan007
just because galactus represents a fundamental force of the universe, doesn't mean there can't be more powerful characters out there. anyhow, at FULL power galactus would be hard-pressed to overcome a higher-level celestial. at half power, he gets destroyed. imo.
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and i wish kubik never would have taken everyone on that silly cosmic tour . . . 🙁
Originally posted by Utrigita
So we are going to in your opinion completely disregard Kubiks words pretending that he didn't know what he was talking about? And we have seen Doom with the power of Galactus warping reality.
Yes because we've seen immature cubes do far more than Galactus or Celestials are capable of. Hiding behind the excuse that "we haven't seen them do it because it's no in their character" is lame.
Can you honestly sit here and tell me that you think Galactus or a Celestial can turn someone into a universe or merge several universes together?
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Yes because we've seen immature cubes do far more than Galactus or Celestials are capable of. Hiding behind the excuse that "we haven't seen them do it because it's no in their character" is lame.Can you honestly sit here and tell me that you think Galactus or a Celestial can turn someone into a universe or merge several universes together?
Not exactly hiding behind a excuse but rather pointing out a fact. To ever see Galactus ore the Celestial work actively towards the imminent destruction of any given universe is just stupid.
Take over the role of Eternity? No I don't think that because obviously (imo) Eternity > Celestials and Galactus. Doom believed he more ore less became one with the universe when he got the power of Galactus from Taa II (even though a handbook stats it was only Galactus power at that time not Taa II), and Galactus broke the power of Five Cosmic Cubes using Gamora as a scaple.
Now can you give me a single reason why Kubik was scared when the Celestial was about to judge him, if that Celestial didn't have the power to dispose of Kubik?