Originally posted by Phantom ZoneYou want me to openly admit I was wrong?
I dunno man I think you're just making excuses instead of just admitting you were wrong. Regardless of what happened in the novel they are both based on Vlad but the comics just decided to make the marvel Dracula have more historical aspects to him.
I was wrong about the marvel comics Dracula. Are you ready to admit you were wrong about the novel dracula?
Originally posted by Creshosk
You want me to openly admit I was wrong?
To tell you the truth im not that bothered, but what I find slightly irritating is that you seem to be trying to blame me. If you hadn't tried to blame me I would have left it at that.
Originally posted by Creshosk
I was wrong about the marvel comics Dracula. Are you ready to admit you were wrong about the novel dracula?
*sigh* Wrong about what? What did I say that was wrong about the novel Dracula?
Originally posted by Phantom ZoneNow who's making up excuses to avoid admitting they were wrong?
To tell you the truth im not that bothered, but what I find slightly irritating is that you seem to be trying to blame me. If you hadn't tried to blame me I would have left it at that.*sigh* Wrong about what? What did I say that was wrong about the novel Dracula?
Ignorance is no excuse.
Originally posted by Phantom ZoneYou're the one that's just making excuses.
Listen to me stop making excuses and SHOW ME where I posted a mistake about the novel Dracula. If you cant find a post i'll assume your just making excuses....got it?
I already admitted I was wrong. Are you just trolling then because you won't do the same?
Oh, right. With all that you know who vs you know who sh*t out of the way; back on topic.
Anybody that can beat Thor, has as much a chance at beating Standard Savage Hulk. They are about the same(in general range) in durability.
But this is WWHulk. He's significantly stronger than Savage Hulk. He's even stronger than Planet Hulk who pulled the entire world back together, not even with maximum effort. Not even Sentry's aura plus all-out power could stop him. And really, besides Banner having some general marring on the mug, I'd say WWHulk basically manhandled Sentry. And that was despite being in full glow of the aura.
And without getting into the footstep sh*t, World Breaker was obviously at such a level that he could've one-shotted Earth. And I get the feeling that wasn't even high range power for World Breaker, considering Planet Hulk, before the bomb upgrade, pulled the world back together. As well, Planet Hulk seemed sure and confident when he asserted that he had the power to do massive global damage with his threat "I could tear your world in half". If WWHulk tapped into World Breaker, which he seems to be able to do at will, we're talking about an assault of supersonic planet-destroying punches from someone with an almost instant HF, incredible durability, and a skilled combat strategist. In addition, Planet Hulk(and also WWHulk) seemed to have great adaptive learning in combat, such as when he only saw the Red King do the jump-twirly-cut thing once. A few panels later, Planet Hulk did the same thing with perfect results.
*sigh*
Anyway, Destroyer wins, sometimes just barely, or if the occasional CIS is in place then Hulk could pull one out. Just thought I'd end this sh*t on a quiet note.
Hit the lights.
Anybody that can beat Thor, has as much a chance at beating Standard Savage Hulk. They are about the same(in general range) in durability.But this is WWHulk. He's significantly stronger than Savage Hulk
Anyway, that won't be curbstomp of any kind, i believe. Hulk will put up quite a battle, but will go down, IMO.
Originally posted by Master Court Ok. Time for me to play catch-up. I can point out two glaring flaws in your last argument.
Okay, let’s see them.
Originally posted by Master Court You said it didn't make a difference(debate-wise) that Thor didn't hold back with that particular shot. But let's look at the full scan. I'm sure you've seen it before.
Don’t put words in my mouth. I didn’t say it didn’t make a difference, I said that at best from that statement you could pull out that, in that instance, that particular instance, Thor stopped holding back. He brought his strength to a new level. I have seen it.
Originally posted by Master Court Thor hits Hulk. Hulk goes flying. Hulk gets right back up, without a mark on him, and grabs a statue that by Thor's own admission could kill him. If one full-power hit doesn't even phase Hulk, why would a second, third, forth, etc suddenly KO/Kill Hulk? And yes, "not holding back" directly implies maximum possible effort in whatever attack. Thor hit Hulk with Mjolnir "without holding back". That directly implies maximum strength with the intent of maximum damage.
He thought it was Adamantium so yes it would be dangerous to anyone, as purely a blunt force object. Try giving Thor an Adamantium statue when in a blood lusted rage, and it would be fatal to the Hulk to. First of all, it clearly fazed him, and it can knock him out and so on, because repeated damage nonstop has effects. Not holding back, does not mean using every single iota of his power. Even when his life is in danger, Thor still holds back his power. That is clearly evident throughout Thor’s history. Unless his truly blood lusted, or possessed, even when his life is in danger and his brought to the edge of death, Thor still holds back. It’s simply his character. When blood lusted Thor has knocked down characters like Silver Surfer and so on with a single blow whose durability far surpasses that of the Hulk. Thor has proven time and again, that even when you think you have him beat, he still holds back reserves of power/strength. Durok, Mangog, Silver Surfer, and others prove so.
Originally posted by Master Court I've completely forgotten the second point I was originally going to make, but I got a new anyway. So f*ck it.
Okay then.
Originally posted by Master Court When they came out of the portal and Hulk sucker punched Thor and started hammering him, it wasn't a fight. Hulk f*cking pounded Thor into the ground. Several unanswered punches. And Hulk walked several yards away before Thor even started to move. And he struggled to his feet. It's clear that not only was Thor completely unable to defend himself, Hulk could've kept going. There wasn't a single sign that Thor was fighting back, or even had the opportunity to. It was made clear that Hulk hammered him.
The Hulk suckered punched him while Thor was not expecting it, and kept on pounding on him repeatedly and went with the momentum. Thor was so shocked he didn’t have a chance to defend himself. A single bolt of lightning is all it would have taken to end that little scuffle, and Thor could have done that with ease. His physical predicament doesn’t even affect his weather control unless his power is genuinely diminished. Several unanswered punches? He landed right on top of a shocked Thor, had hit him twice. Several yards? Dude, the Hulk still had one foot in the freaking crater, in the next panel and in that same panel Thor’s hand was already raised for Mjolnir. Did we read the same fight?
Thor could have defended himself in a number of ways just off the top of my head. He was far from defenseless. It was shock more than anything. We have seen it happen in comics before on a number of occasions. Yes Hulk could’ve kept going, but Thor isn’t about to lie there while Hulk threatens Thor. Sooner or later, one bolt of lightning would have ended that little edge Hulk received. Thor never even had an opportunity or need to do anything because that little scuffle was so incredibly short.
Stop trying to portray it as if it was some severe beating. The Hulk jumped Thor, hit a sucker punch, landed on top of a shocked Thor, and hit him about 2 times. Thor then gets right back up.
Originally posted by Master Court And back to the "holding back" thing. Thor didn't say he's "always" held back. He said he's held back in the past. The same way Thanos said that over the years he's sought to avoid a confrontation with the Hulk. Thanos doesn't mean he's spent every minute to make sure Hulk's nowhere in sight. Just that he's avoided him here and there.
What exactly is wrong with what I said? Thor said he held back against the Hulk in the past. The past he refers to is all their previous fights. That’s a faulty analogy that doesn’t apply in this situation. Thor stated he held back against the Hulk and his stated he holds back against mortals, on different occasions (He considers the Hulk a mortal by the way.). There is nothing wrong with what I said as there is evidence to back it up. Like I said before, Thor holding back the majority of his strength is the only way their fights would even make sense. The Hulk clearly starts out at Thor’s level somehow in their fights (He needs to, to be able to survive.), and constantly amps throughout the entire fight, he is still not able to put Thor down. Why is that we ask? It’s because Thor simply exerts more effort and strength to counteract his amping. If he didn’t, the Hulk would overpower Thor, sooner rather than later (He hasn’t.).
Originally posted by Master Court And Thor DOES win by fighting skills. Brawling doesn't mean skill-less. A skilled fighter always fights skillfully. You can't just turn it off.
Thor isn’t limited to winning by skill alone. That was my point. He can win through simple raw strength and/or raw power if he wants to easily enough. I never said it does. It requires skill to be an expert brawler as well. Thor has only shown his true skill in fighting a few times, and in those few times, his punked Hulk with them.
Originally posted by Master Court And another thing about your "holding back" sh*t. Thor's first fight with Rulk. Thor screams "For by morning thou wilt be DEAD!" You don't hold back against someone you're trying to kill. And you know what? Rulk didn't budge an inch. Rulk went on to even catch a strike from Mjolnir, even after it's been made clear Thor is trying to kill him. And Rulk beat the sh*t out of Thor. And by Thor's comment "By leaving me alive, you have something-something my wrath." we can easily assume Rulk had the opportunity and power to kill Thor.
Are you actually using Rulk as an example? Seriously, I had some respect for you, but you’ve lost it. Are you really that damn desperate? Stop trying to use plot induced stupidity and bad writing as an example, and even that is faulty argument.
Dude that fight with Thor was utter shit. Spider-Man’s blows had more effect on him than Thor. According to that, do we assume, “Spider-Man’s blows > Thor’s blows”?
I’ll play along with this stupid comic book as evidence.
You just proved another point for me. Thor states that he will see Rulk dead, and Rulk still manages to gain the advantage and defeat Thor. Do we assume Thor was using all of his power? Again, no we don’t. Just because, Thor stated he would see him dead, it does not mean he was using all of his power. That much is evident, that when he comes back, he has Rulk down on his knees and at his mercy in a page. Rulk even admitted Hulk saved his life by interfering. So clearly Thor held back a vast majority of his power, and strength, since in the first encounter he was so easily beaten yet in the second encounter, when he wasn’t shocked and confused, he beat the crap out of him easily. Even you must see the logic in this. If we not holding back, and Rulk was able to easily shrug off his blows (It was plot induced stupidity.), so did he then get some sort of amp or anything, as he came back right after and beat the living crap out of him in a page?
Originally posted by Master Court And much later, issues later, Hulk beats the sh*t out of Rulk, and proving he's stronger than Rulk in the process. Since Rulk only aborbs energy, and Thor's powers are not energy based in any way, it's logical to assume Rulk pwned Thor with pure raw force and simple strategy. Save for the energy-absorbing crap, if Rulk can do it, Hulk can do it. Especially considering Rulk's strength does NOT increase.
God you’re full of shit. You resort to the stupidity that was Rulk and you still ignore context. Rulk has punked the Hulk on a number of occasions. Hell, he somehow knocked him out with a hold and a broken arm. So apparently all Thor needs to do is break an arm and get him into a hold, which wouldn’t be difficult for Thor. Rulk has even killed the Hulk by stabbing him through the chest with a trident. Apparently Hulk’s healing factor isn’t what it used to be currently.
Did you forget that all Rulk did was gain the advantage through surprise and shock? The moment Thor came back, he beat the utter shit out of Rulk in a page. Had him on his knees and everything, so clearly Thor is superior to Rulk in terms of power and strength, and since Rulk can kill and knock out the Hulk, then so can Thor. All you need to do is get him in a hold and break his arm. That would be easy for Thor. dur
Nah, just because Rulk can do it does not mean the Hulk can. Utter bull shit. Rulk killed a freaking elder of the Universe in a few blows somehow despite their immortality and not being accepted in the realm of Death and even puncked the Watcher Uatu. Just because Rulk did it, does not in any way indicate that the Hulk can do it.
Originally posted by Master Court So I've proven that on more than one occasion, Thor has not held back against a Hulk of some kind,
It has been proven on more than one occasion that Thor did not hold back against a Hulk of some kind? When was this? You have the debatable one instance with the Mindless Hulk. The Rulk incident only counts if you completely ignore what happens when Thor returns and beats the utter shit out of the Rulk.
Originally posted by Master Court and since Thor never stated how often or to what extent he holds back, it's a very real possibility that he has NOT held back on more than one occasion against Hulk himself.
Reaching for straws here. Thor state he in the past has held back against the Hulk. In the past is in reference to all their battles. Unless there was some evidence to indicate he was not referring to all their battles, then your statement is baseless. Thor has stated on more than one occasion, that he always holds back against mortals. Brings himself down to their level, and Thor considers the Hulk a mortal. There is more than enough evidence to support that Thor holds back his strenght against the Hulk.
Didn’t Thor even state that no matter how strong a mortal was, he only used “1/3” of his strength in fear of killing them? I do not recall the issue however. Do you?
Originally posted by Master Court I've proven Rulk's strength is > Thor's durability. Hulk is stronger than Rulk, and therefore Hulk's strength is > Thor's durability. Given his many battles with Hulk, Thor should know better than to hold back against Hulk, someone that can physically harm him, and by Thor's admission could kill him, especially given the right weapon. And a weapon should be a-okay in this fight, considering Thor uses Asgardian super-glue to keep Mjolnir in his grip at all times.
You’ve proven shit. You are so desperate you’ve resorted to using utter stupidity as evidence and even that is a faulty argument. The Rulk did punk Thor, but Thor was in extreme shock as shown. When pissed off, he came back and beat the crap out of him, which shows how much shock and his natural habit of holding back can hinder him. Hulk is stronger than Rulk? Nah. The only time his actually beaten him was when he interrupted the Thor fight and proceeded to overheat him, and even that was just a random shtick so he could lose. Loeb just pulls this shit out of his ass.
Since you so laugh “A>B> C” logic when it suits you, I’ll use some of my own. Namor has stated, that Thor is out of his league, and Thor has even one shotted a fully hydrated Namor while it was raining. A younger, better Namor, who beat the Current Namor. The same recent Namor, who has the winning record against the Hulk as I can tell.
So based on that:
Thor >Namor>Hulk
See I can do stupid too. dur
Hulk’s strength > Thor’s durability? Dude, is your love of Hulk really warping your perception of comic book history that much? Holy shit, get off that gamma irradiated dick, and use your head for a change. Shit, that statement is so baseless, it’s hilarious.
Not really. Thor brings himself down to the Hulk’s level by not using his power and holding back his strength. The most the Hulk has done is draw a drop of blood here and there. Thor with his Asgardian nature can go on fighting and even defeating the freaking Absorbing Man, with his entire rib cage broken. His damage soak is ridiculous. Such trivial wounds mean nothing to Thor. He stated that an Adamantium weapon of blunt force could kill him in the right hands. He didn’t say that the Hulk could kill him. God you’re reaching. It was a statue made out of secondary Adamantium as I recall. Yes, that should obviously be allowed right?
Originally posted by Master Court So even there, we have Thor with Mjolnir, something powerful enough to dent Cap's adamantium/vibranium composite shield, unable to kill Hulk. And we have Hulk with an adamantium statue that Thor admits could kill him.
Who said Thor with Mjolnir is unable to kill the Hulk? He can do so, easily. He just chooses not to. Even when they go hand to hand, Thor clearly states, that he never had the intention of killing or doing any real harm to the Hulk, and simply wants to stop him. He was even worried about the Hulk’s life when he hit him so hard, he was absent for an extended period of time. Presumably down.
Dude he said, “Become a weapon fair fit to destroy a Thunder God.”.
That’s all he stated. At best, we could gleam, for this statement that in the Mindless Hulk’s hands, a weapon of pure Adamantium can put him down. It’s not some admission or fact, that the Hulk can slay Thor, or if they engaged in a battle in that point, that the Hulk would slay Thor. He could, with that weapon, if he beat nonstop on a defend less Thor for god knows how long.
Originally posted by Master Court Finally, the test-of-strength we both have been referring to was years and years ago. Around that time, Hulk was also stating that he would've died from simply falling from great heights.
You are so full of crap. So what if it was stated that the Hulk can die from falling from great heights? Clearly it’s not true. Hell, his greatest and craziest feats come from years and years ago. You don’t have any type of problem referencing them when it suits you, but when it goes against your argument clearly there is some problem there right?
Also, for someone who reads a lot of Hulk you sure seem to have forgotten a detail. It was stated no more than a few years ago, around the earlier issues of his second volume that the Hulk and Thor stalemated in strength for entire hours on end, without Thor showing a sign of tiring. That recent enough for you?
Originally posted by Master Court Hulk's strength not only increases with anger, but his base power and the extent of the anger-amp has increased over the years. Like I've pointed out before, a calm Banner-Controlled-Hulk caught and braced a 150 billion ton mountain at a moment’s notice. That's a tremendous amp in just a few seconds. And it wasn't even Savage Hulk. And in Planet Hulk, he took an orbital fall just to get home faster.
Do you have a point? His feats of strength are still just as great from those years ago. Hell, that so called mountain feat (Which wasn’t that impressive, as the Hulk simply supported a small enclave and so on.) , happened before the reference to their fight where they stalemated for hours. Almost 30 years before by my calculations. Lol. Hulk jumping from his base to new levels is nothing new at all. He did that all the time back in the day when needed. Orbital falls are supposed to be impressive? His tanked a lot worse back in the day.
Originally posted by Master Court So the Hulk that stalemated Thor in a test-of-strength something like fifteen to twenty years ago was the same Hulk that could die from a fall at great heights.
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Just because the Hulk and Thor’s fights happened were years ago does not change their validness in any way at all. So the Hulk stated a height from high up, can kill him? That’s obvious bull shit. Do you want me to post scans of the Hulk back in the day withstanding a lot worse? Also, references to them stalemating for hours and hours on end without Thor showing any signs of weakness, happened only a hand full of years ago.
Originally posted by Master Court Since then, we have such a feat as Hulk breaking Onslaught's armor where Thor failed to do so. Even with Banner-removed, any feat of strength that any Hulk can do, Savage can eventually match and then some.
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The Hulk breaks through the armor of Onslaught when he wanted to evolve to a next level. What’s so impressive about that? By the way, Thor did manage to break through Onslaughts armor. Also the Mindless Hulk who accomplished that feat, Thor went toe to toe with no problem.
He can do it eventually? That’s in your opinion. Mindless Hulk I view is superior to Savage Hulk. He is simply raw power and rage.
Originally posted by Master Court Savage Hulk is definitely stronger than Thor. And what's more, between the two of them, Thor is the only one that has ever implied the possibility that the other is stronger.
This is what really pisses me off. You state that Thor is inferior if it’s some kind of proven fact without a doubt which it clearly is.
“Potentially” the Hulk power set should allow him to become superior. Unfortunately he hasn’t done so even with hours and hours of time, and this is with Thor holding back as usual.
Do you suffer from memory lose? I already addressed the statement. It was just that a statement, and yes, the Hulk has also shown doubt that he is superior to Thor. Do I need to post a scan?
Originally posted by Master Court As for Galactus and the "infinite strength" question. Hulk's strength is limitless. It's a canon fact. That doesn't mean he can beat Galactus. Or even hurt Galactus. For strength to hurt someone, they have to be susceptible to physical harm. It's the old "immovable object meets unstoppable force" thing. People much lesser than Galactus, like Thanos, have proven susceptible to physical harm. But Galactus is beyond that. Hence why Thanos has commented on avoiding Hulk. And Galactus turns people into piles of sh*t.
There are apparently different levels of limitless in marvel. The Hulk’s strength is apparently potentially limitless. That’s great. It’s not limitless compared to Galactus, nor is Galactus’ might limitless compared to the Living Tribunal. Also it’s far from a cannon fact that his strength is limitless. That doesn’t even make sense. Show me evidence where he proves his strength is limitless. It’s just that, a potential level of power.
Galactus is clearly susceptible to physical harm. That’s why Thor sent him running for his life when they meet.
Don’t confuse that statement with Thanos being afraid or unable to stomp the Hulk. Just to be clear.
Originally posted by Master Court Rage has "held" his position in the sense that, despite mile long paragraphs, his entire arguments do nothing more than say "Huh-uh!"
You’re full of it. You continuously dodge points, and arguments and resort to silly insults.
Originally posted by Master Court I've made points. Valid points. I've posted scans that back my points. I've proven Thor does NOT always hold back against Hulk. I've proven Thor can not 10/10 one-shot Hulk. And I've backed the Hulk is stronger than Thor argument with the ultra-rare "indisputable feat". Thor couldn't break Onslaught's armor. Hulk could. And since strength is measured by limits, Hulk is, by definition of "infinite", stronger than Thor. Seems a no-brainer. Going all out, Thor's hammer has dented Cap's shield, an adamantium/vibranium composite. Going all out, Thor's hammer didn't even slow Hulk down. I'm not saying it never does. I'm saying it doesn't always.
What valid points? You mean Rulk?
You’ve proven that Thor brought his game up to a new level and stopped holding back, once. For a single instance and knocked Mindless Hulk on his ass. And even that is contradicted but what happened, happened. Really, he could one shot him every time if he felt like it.
Ultra rare indisputable feat? Lol.
Dude, he did Onslaught something he wanted, and cracked his armor allowing him to evolve. Context. Also, Thor broke through Onslaughts armor before that as well. Nice theory there about how much stronger Hulk is by Thor. Theories aren’t worth shit here though when showings say differently. He clearly slowed Hulk down. He knocked him on his ass.
Originally posted by Master Court My ultimate points;Thor can't beat Hulk 10/10.
Hulk is stronger than Thor.
Yes Thor can beat the Hulk every single time, 10/10 if he stopped bringing himself down to the Hulk’s level and stopped holding back his power and strength.
Nah, he really isn’t going by their fights. Theoretically he should be stronger eventually and should be able to defeat him in a pure physical fight. It’s in his power set after all, all he does is grow stronger. Theories though won’t get you shit.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone Ermm not sure what you're talking about but if the energy that WWH was responsible or partially responsible it would do more. The buildings were not incinerated at the most the windows were blown out, that aint contributing to making fissures.
Actually, even before Hulk takes his steps it was shown that the energy was incinerating objects/buildings. Look at the panels close again. You can clearly see it happening. The energy was definitely in play there. To what extent? Who knows, but to call it purely a strength feat, is incorrect.
Originally posted by leonidas sigh . . . this is useless (cuz no one ever even has the CHANCE to change your views, apparently--not a great quality), but, very briefly . . .
Okay then.
Originally posted by leonidas you showed some scan from the middle of the fight. these are the end:
http://img31.imageshack.us/i/75528074.jpg/
http://img196.imageshack.us/i/19141680.jpg/
Your point? I posted those scans, because apparently to you, someone downing an opponent is considered a win, and Thor has downed the Hulk for periods of time with his blows before.
Originally posted by leonidas "thor getting weaker, hulk getting stronger". hulk letting him get out of the hole. was thor ko'd? no. did odin ko thanos? but i suppose you think thanos didn't lose that fight either? wait--that's ODIN, and you're a thor-guy, so the ko=win theory you proposed here probably won't count in that odin/thanos battle.
Your point? What his stated doesn’t amount for squat. Clearly Thor isn’t getting weaker, as he is more than capable of fighting back, and Hulk getting stronger is nothing new. Thor’s fought the Hulk in a battle of pure strength for hours on end without even showing signs of tiring. His fought Zeus for months on end. Thor isn’t getting weak or tired. The Hulk is obviously getting stronger. That’s his ability. He amps up. His ability to amp though has never allowed him to beat Thor and Thor has always been able to hold his own despite his amping…….
Bad comparison. Odin is portrayed as a level above, and was thoroughly knocking his ass around every single time. Me being a Thor fan has nothing to do with us using logic, and character history to realize when a character is above another character in terms of power.
Originally posted by leonidas hulk was fresh and stronger than ever. a great durability feat from thor, but he was getting smashed at the end of that fight. cling to your view, but again--enough "rational" thor fans were po'd enough to inundate marvel with letters expressing how angry they were at showing hulk finally being stronger than thor. so, yeah. sometimes the majority aren't the morons. 😉
Your point? Hulk is constantly getting stronger, every single moment of their fights. That’s never been enough to hinder Thor. Him being able to amp, has not allowed him to overpower Thor before nor has it ever. Thor’s strength reserves are so vast, that he can simply exert more force and strength as the Hulk gets stronger to hold his own. Again, your definition of smashed is pounding an opponent and downing him. Thor’s done that to the Hulk before, and using your logic, the Hulk has been smashed by Thor before.
Lol, at emphasizing rational fans. If they were that upset I wouldn’t call them rational. It wasn’t a bad showing for Thor. It was simply the Hulk like always pressing his momentum and being unable to down Thor while Thor like always, restraining himself and even being concerned for the Hulk’s well being. Sometimes they aren’t. This isn’t one of those times though. 😉
Originally posted by leonidas 😂oh yeah. my scans show pretty clearly that hulk REALLY looked terrified when the hammer returned at the end of that fight . . . 🙄
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You don’t even know what you include in your own posts. Your scans didn’t show the instance where Mjolnir returns, genius. 😂
Originally posted by leonidas why was this scan never addressed?http://www.leaderslair.com/gammapeople/hulksmashes/hulk2001-3.html
It was never addressed because it’s more of that sites bullshit and Hulk wanking. Thor gets right back up in the panel they “accidently” cropped out, and they went off to call it a win for the Hulk. That site is the most biased Hulk site I know off. No wonder, we have idiots, thinking, the Hulk has beaten and manhandled Thor countless of times. Someone should go off to make a Thor site, that’s just as equally biased. I don’t have the time unfortunately. 😛
Originally posted by leonidas
but you don't know where the "pure strength feat" ends. you just think it ends at some arbitrary point and suddenly the shockwave is no longer caused by strength (even though hulk's strength has been felt throughout planetary level distances in the past--see asteroid feat) but rather by the gamma energy.yep, that is fairly nonsensical. 😐
I do know that it shouldn't be classified as a pure strength feat though. I believe that the environmental damage, and so on was also a result of the Gamma Energy being thrown into the mix, as the comic clearly portrayed it that way. They even show fissures tearing open from the ground as Gamma Energy originates from his foot and spews forth.
Is the Gray Hulk asteroid feat cannon?
