Originally posted by SoulDevourer
but thats impossible 🤨 (unless he grew to be > 5D somehow but thats never stated). I mean he coudnt have erase the Ultimator & things like thatsome1 got scan?
i'm tryin to find the scan and yes.the whole omniverse was obliterated except for him and qwsp.yes they are that awesome and yes mxy destroys lucy and mike
Originally posted by SoulDevoureras i have stated SEVERAL times in the past, a numerically higher dimension doesn't necessarily equate to greater power. for instance, feat-wise beings of the 6th/8th dimension(s) were far less powerful than beings from the 5th. hell, kid devil has visited the 52nd dimension, yet even the beings who occupied that place weren't any more powerful than regular people.
but thats impossible 🤨 (unless he grew to be > 5D somehow but thats never stated). I mean he coudnt have erase the Ultimator & things like thatsome1 got scan?
as far as what's been displayed, 5-d beings > all.
Originally posted by Galan007but on panel its STATED that mxy is so powerfull BECAUSE hes 5D (then he says something like "2 degrees of infinity more" then 3D) and thats canon so it make no frakkin sense that 5D > 6D or 7D or higher 😕
as i have stated SEVERAL times in the past, a numerically higher dimension doesn't necessarily equate to greater power. for instance, feat-wise beings of the 6th/8th dimension(s) were far less powerful than beings from the 5th. hell, kid devil has visited the 52nd dimension, yet even the beings who occupied that place weren't any more powerful than regular people.as far as what's been displayed, 5-d beings > all.
the imps combined coudnt even affect the Ultimator whose 10D and mxy had to do his 4th wall tricks again just to lock it up lol
Originally posted by SoulDevourer1.) yet on panel, mxy is > ANY other dimensional characters ever depicted.
but on panel its STATED that mxy is so powerfull BECAUSE hes 5D (then he says something like "2 degrees of infinity more"😉 and thats canon so it make no frakkin sense that 5D > 6D or 7D or higherthe imps combined coudnt even affect the Ultimator whose 10D and mxy had to do his 4th wall tricks again just to lock it up lol
2.) regardless of the means mxy used to overcome ultimator, the fact still remains that a 5-d being eventually beat a 10-d being [whom supposedly embodied all existence.]
Originally posted by Galan007BUT 4TH WALL IS CHEATIN 😠 😠
1.) yet on panel, mxy is > ANY other dimensional characters ever depicted.2.) regardless of the means mxy used to overcome ultimator, the fact still remains that a 5-d being eventually beat a 10-d being [whom supposedly embodied all existence.]
i mean Doom & She Hulk coud pwn TOAA if they want to 😂
Originally posted by SoulDevourermxy imprisoning ultimator was not a 4th wall feat. the comic ultimator was trapped in, was one mxy himself created. thus, mxy's power [and mxy's power alone] can be attributed to ultimator's 'defeat'.
BUT 4TH WALL IS CHEATIN 😠 😠i mean Doom & She Hulk coud pwn TOAA if they want to 😂
Originally posted by Galan007he dint create no comic 🤨 even if he did, once Ultimator wuz sleepin mxy would of had to leave the comic to make a comic anyway (they show him jump out the book & use tape to seal it shut) so it is a 4th wall thing
mxy imprisoning ultimator was not a 4th wall feat. the comic ultimator was trapped in, was one mxy himself created. thus, mxy's power [and mxy's power alone] can be attributed to ultimator's 'defeat'.
Originally posted by SoulDevoureryes he did. several of them, in fact. anyone who's read the issue could tell you that much.
he dint create no comic
Originally posted by SoulDevourermxy's boring variation of the sandman series caused ultimator to fall asleep. mxy then left that comic, and sealed it so ultimator could never escape.. and like i said before, because those comics were ALL part of mxy's magical 'spoof' collection, him hopping in and out of them does NOT constitute a 4th wall feat.
once Ultimator wuz sleepin mxy would of had to leave the comic to make a comic anyway (they show him jump out the book & use tape to seal it shut) so it is a 4th wall thing
sorry but any further argument regarding this topic is nothing but blatant ignorance on your part.
Originally posted by Galan007bleh why dont u post that scan where it says so? lol if it was "his" comic then he woudnt have needed to wait till Ultimator wuz asleep to lock it up 😕
yes he did. anyone who's read the issue could tell you that much.mxy's boring variation of the sandman series caused ultimator to fall asleep. mxy then left that comic, and sealed it so ultimator could never escape.. and like i said before, because those comics were ALL part of mxy's magical 'spoof' collection, him hopping in and out of them does NOT constitute a 4th wall feat.
sorry but any further argument regarding this topic is nothing but blatant ignorance on your part.
iirc the comic mxy was in was the same one where mxy got tossed INTO before he jump out. when u jump out of a comic it is a 4th wall thing. its not like she-hulk jumped into OUR RL is it. lol
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
bleh why dont u post that scan where it says so? lol if it was "his" comic then he wount have needed to wait till Ultimater wuz asleep to lock it up 😕
he had to wait until she was asleep, otherwise she would have followed him out of that comic, like she did with all of the others.
Originally posted by Galan007
sorry but any further argument regarding this topic is nothing but blatant ignorance on your part.
Originally posted by Galan007k but its still jumping outa comics whatever u wanna call it 4th wall or 3.5th wall or w/e 🙄 (or 4th wall inside 4th wall lol)he had to wait until she was asleep, otherwise she would have followed him out of that comic, like she did with all of the others.
Originally posted by SoulDevourerthose comics were mxy's personal creations, and still within the realm of comics. him hopping in and out of them is no different than him venturing to the 3rd dimension and back.
k but its still jumping outa comics whatever u wanna call it 4th wall or 3.5th wall or w/e 🙄 (or 4th wall inside 4th wall lol)
it was NOT a 4th wall feat.
Originally posted by SoulDevourerpoint is:
point is mxy had to trick it else he would of been its next snack
Originally posted by Galan007
2.) regardless of the means mxy used to overcome ultimator, the fact still remains that a 5-d being eventually beat a 10-d being [whom supposedly embodied all existence.]
Originally posted by Galan007dont u think its more like (RL) Carlin jumping in & out of his own comics? 😂
they were mxy's creations. him hopping in and out of them is no different than him venturing to the 3rd dimension and back.it was NOT a 4th wall feat.
point is:ok but remeber when you mention PIS somewhere else? (when zatana clone depower mxy, iirc u called it pis) then i can say it wuz PIS with Ultimator too, so there!!!
Originally posted by SoulDevoureran event can only be considered PIS, when there is substantial evidence to the contrary. in the annataz/mxy instance you mentioned, that sort of 'to the contrary' evidence exists.
ok but remeber when you mention PIS somewhere else? (when zatana clone depower mxy, iirc u called it pis) then i can say it wuz PIS with Ultimator too, so there!!!
in the case of mxy/ultimator, it does not. thus, it cannot logically be considered PIS.
Originally posted by Galan007k what about this: if the "comic" Ultimater was locked in wuz realy just another dimension like u said & not a comic, then it should of been able to jump out of it once it woke up! 😉 especially if its suppose to be = all existence (all existence = all dimensions inc. ones outside that comic). see thats PIS
an event can only be considered PIS, when there is substantial evidence to the contrary. in the annataz/mxy instance you mentioned, than sort of 'to the contrary' evidence exists.in the case of mxy/ultimator, it does not.
the only thing no1 can jump out of ever ever is the "real" comics (unless they can do the 4th wall thing). thats why i said it look more like real comic then just a "pocket dimension" or something. especialy since mxy is known to break 4th wall anyways, thats what he allways does!
Originally posted by SoulDevourerultimator couldn't jump out of that comic because mxy's version of dream kept her in a perpetual state of hibernation [via boring monologues.]
k what about this: if the "comic" Ultimater was locked in wuz realy just another dimension like u say & not a comic, then it should of been able to jump out of it once it woke up. especially if its suppose to be = all existence (all existence = all dimensions inc. ones outside that comic). see thats PISthe only thing no1 can jump out of ever ever is the "real" comics (unless they can do the 4th wall thing)
what doesn't compute?
