Arceus, Dialga, Palkia and Giratina vs Z

Started by occultdestroyer5 pages

Originally posted by NemeBro
Is the anime not the original canon of Pokemon?

No.

Although Ash was based from Red,
Ash is in no way, shape or form, as good as Red was/is.
Ash is more like his retarded cousin.

Red has been displayed as more cocky than Ash, and has a better winning streak than Ash.
(he defeated the Indigo League, captured Mewtwo... Ash lost to Ritchie)

Add to the fact that Red has a Pikachu so strong that it can affect Rock and Ground-types, and even stall Mewtwo and Deoxys for a brief amount of time.
(Irc, Ash's underpowered Pikachu only defeated Brock's Onix with PIS [water sprinklers going off]... Pika literally electrified Onix without the water sprinklers in the manga)
And Red didn't have any sidekicks in his journey.

I'd also note that the storylines between the anime, the games, and the manga are not exactly related, although they do borrow ideas from each other.

Originally posted by Kento
😆 Nope you can capture lvl 80 and higher Magikarp in teh resort area in Plat.

Actually, you're right 😂

I just read an article in Serebii.net about that.

Lol the Nintendo and Game Freak guys sure do have a good sense of humor.

YouTube video

By 4:20 onwards, you will understand why Arceus is God of the Pokemon universe.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
YouTube video

By 4:20 onwards, you will understand why Arceus is God of the Pokemon universe.


Yeah maybe if I could read japanese I would.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Yeah maybe if I could read japanese I would.

WTF are you talking about?
There isn't even any dialogue in 4:20 😐

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
WTF are you talking about?
There isn't even any dialogue in 4:20 😐

But there is onwards as you said.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
WTF are you talking about?
There isn't even any dialogue in 4:20 😐

What is at 4:20 onwards except Arceus standing in front of a bunch of scenery? I don't know wtf that's supposed to represent.

Originally posted by King Kandy
What is at 4:20 onwards except Arceus standing in front of a bunch of scenery? I don't know wtf that's supposed to represent.

It represents his omniscience.
The creation of the cosmos, of the earth, was done by him.
And he can see the past, the present, and the future.

That scene is where Arceus creates another Palkia or Dialga from an egg in Pokemon SoulSilver/HeartGold, depending on which platform you choose.

Originally posted by King Kandy
What is at 4:20 onwards except Arceus standing in front of a bunch of scenery? I don't know wtf that's supposed to represent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtG-y7LFQQ4

Read the description in the top left.. it pretty much sums up what was going on.

In other words, Arceus was using Google Images and then poop'd an egg

I'm pretty sure that the Pokemon manga, while many people say it is very good (much better than the anime) is not canon

Originally posted by Endless Mike
I'm pretty sure that the Pokemon manga, while many people say it is very good (much better than the anime) is not canon

Pokemon is not like Naruto or One Piece or those other Shonen Jump series.
What's canon to the Pokemon manga is completely different to what's canon to the anime.

They do have similarities though, like the manga was based on the games, whilst the anime was based on the manga.

Besides their appearances, Red and Ash are completely different characters.

Some of the differences between the anime and manga:

Red's 1st Pkmn was a Poliwag.. Ash's was a Pikachu
Red wins most of the time, and is regarded as the greatest Trainer ever.. Heck, even Cynthia is better than Ash in the anime 😐
Pika is far more powerful than Pikachu..
Pryce isn't as kind as he was portrayed in the anime

Spoiler:
In fact, he was a major antagonist known as The Mask of Ice. The legendary Ho-oh is one of his henchmen

Giovanni is no longer the leader of Team Rocket in the manga
Jesse and James quit Team Rocket a long time ago, and are married and had a baby

Arcues lost his powers after he made the universe, and it's hard to say how powerful he was. Z should win this one with some effort.

Originally posted by Hellspawn28
Arcues lost his powers after he made the universe, and it's hard to say how powerful he was. Z should win this one with some effort.

😐

facepalm

Red just sounds like a Gary Stu honestly. 😐

Originally posted by NemeBro
Red just sounds like a Gary Stu honestly. 😐

Sort of.
Although he is depicted to be unaware of himself slowly becoming the greatest Pokemon Master.

Ash just doesn't compare to the likes of Red.
Red's legendary Regigigas could probably solo ALL of Ash's Pokemon team, all at the same time.
And Pika is probably stronger than his legendary Regigigas lol

That doesn't mean he's undefeatable though, coz he was once defeated by Gold in the Johto arc.

Ash's equal is arguably Ritchie, the one with a Pikachu named Sparky.
Most of their Pokemon are the same, they look almost the same too.
And Ash was defeated by Ritchie canonically in the anime.

I wouldn't call Red a "Gary Sue" in Pokemon..
If there is a Mary Sue, it would be undoubtedly Yellow.
God, she's AWFUL.. "What a Pokemans evolution? AAAAAHHHH!", "I have healing powers, I'll heal my Pokemons. I care for them so much, my heart feels heavy."

Edit:
Back on topic, Z destroying half of the moon means jack shit to these 3 Pokemans.
Meteor bigger than the Earth >> half the moon.
He doesn't really stand a chance against a universe creator and 3 reality manipulators.

Addition proof why Arceus is the God of all that exists in Pokemon, from the Canalave Library:

Sinnoh's Beginning as Told on Plates

"The Original One breathed alone before the universe came.
When the universe was created, its shards became this Plate..
The power of defeated giants infuses this Plate."

"Two beings of Time and Space set free from the Original One.
Three beings were born to bind time and space.
Two make Matter, and three make Spirit, shaping the world."

"The powers of these Plates are shared among Pokemon.
The rightful bearer of a Plate draws from the Plate it holds."

Wasn't it said that he used 1000 arms to create the universe, but he doesn't have these arms anymore.