karma

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
So Karma is just cause and effect?

No, not just cause and effect. If cause and effect was water, then Karma is a river. All the cause and effects in your life have brought you to were you are now, and into the future. That direction of your life is Karma.

In other words, karma is just cause and effect.

Needless bit of philosophy really.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
In other words, karma is just cause and effect.

Needless bit of philosophy really.

Can you read? If you could and did read the thread I posted, you would then know that your statement is untrue. I am sorry if the topic is too difficult for you to understand.

Cause and effect alone does not have aspects like Fixed karma, Unfixed karma and Simultaneity of cause and effect. Cause and effect is a part of Karma, but there is a lot more to it.

Again I invite people to read the thread on the topic.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=447678

Here's Karma. The theif died.

http://www.koco.com/news/20382864/detail.html

Watch the vid on the right.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Can you read? If you could and did read the thread I posted, you would then know that your statement is untrue. I am sorry if the topic is too difficult for you to understand.

Cause and effect alone does not have aspects like Fixed karma, Unfixed karma and Simultaneity of cause and effect. Cause and effect is a part of Karma, but there is a lot more to it.

Again I invite people to read the thread on the topic.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=447678

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I am not reading that whole thing. Summarized paragraph available?

OK, I understand. It is difficult to understand. I do not fault you for not being up to the task.

I could try to answer some questions, but I’m not a Buddhist teacher. Even I have to read it again, again to refleresh my knowledge of Karma.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
OK, I understand. It is difficult to understand. I do not fault you for not being up to the task.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
You don't know what it means to not give a shit, do you? Or are you just an egotist?

There is nothing that compels me to convince you of anything. You have to do it on your own.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There is nothing that compels me to convince you of anything. You have to do it on your own.

Very nice.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I figured. You'll inform people of their ignorance, and refer them to a text. When asked for a summary, you insult them. When questioned about that, you insult the inquisitor. For someone who discusses philosophy and believes in Karma, whatever it is to you, you practice egotism relentlessly.

Very nice.

You are very strange. I have no idea why you would think anything I said was an insult. To be honest; I don't care enough to insult you. I just didn't want to paraphrase it for you. As far as trying to convince you? Again, I don't really care.

Yes I believe in Karma. A lot.

It is not a being, or controlled by the being or any such thing. It is a force.

It is cause and effect. Your actions are bad, the effect of those actions will negatively affect you and others around you.
It is a poor understanding that Karma 'decides' who to punish and whom to not punish. It does not think, it just is.
It also doesn't work like ''you killed someone and then you were walking down the street and randomly get hit by a bus''.
It is NOT eye for an eye idea.

If you keep on killing people, you will eventually get killed yourself - if not by law, then by someone who's path you crossed.
If you steal you will eventually be caught, or stolen from, cheated or worse.

It's just how it is.

So, yes, I believe in Karma. Your actions (whether good or bad) will affect the outcome of things, one way or another. If not right away, then at some point.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
If you keep on killing people, you will eventually get killed yourself - if not by law, then by someone who's path you crossed.

Not really, there are several people who've murdered and then died happy.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
If you steal you will eventually be caught, or stolen from, cheated or worse.

Being cheated isn't effected by cheating other people.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
It's just how it is.

No it's not. Karma is a bullshit balancing act made up to convince gullible people that life is somehow fundamentally fair. At its worst karma is empirically untrue, at best it describes something that is totally irrelevant.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
So, yes, I believe in Karma. Your actions (whether good or bad) will affect the outcome of things, one way or another. If not right away, then at some point.

That's not karma. That's cause and effect. By definition if you do something, something will happen. Babies know this, no one should be so deluded about things that they have to declare their belief in that.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Not really, there are several people who've murdered and then died happy.

Being cheated isn't effected by cheating other people.

No it's not. Karma is a bullshit balancing act made up to convince gullible people that life is somehow fundamentally fair. At its worst karma is empirically untrue, at best it describes something that is totally irrelevant.

That's not karma. That's cause and effect. By definition if you do something, something will happen. Babies know this, no one should be so deluded about things that they have to declare their belief in that.

Karma IS cause and effect. That is the fundamental idea of Karma.
I don't know what Hollywood told you think, but it is wrong.
It helps to actually read about Karmic philosophy.

And I am just really interested in people that you know killed and died HAPPY.
I am really interested in how you know how they died and what they felt.

In case you are about to go on about Stalin, the circumstances of his death will never be known, however it is widely believed that he was killed with rat poison which induced his stroke.

Even Pol Pot was not ALLOWED to be examined for causes of his death, raising suspicions of suicide or poisoning.

are you arguing that all people who have killed another person were killed themselves?

Originally posted by inimalist
are you arguing that all people who have killed another person were killed themselves?

No, absolutely not. I am not even arguing that those who have killed will be or are killed themselves.
Karmic debt is not about eye for an eye.

I was replying to his post.

Maybe I shouldn't have mentioned murder at all as I don't think I have expressed myself correctly.

There is absolutely no such thing as Karma. What comes around most definitly does not go around.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
No, absolutely not. I am not even arguing that those who have killed will be or are killed themselves.
Karmic debt is not about eye for an eye.

I was replying to his post.

Maybe I shouldn't have mentioned murder at all as I don't think I have expressed myself correctly.

I was just clarifying for myself, no worries

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
There is absolutely no such thing as Karma. What comes around most definitly does not go around.

And that is not Karma.

Every person has his own Karma. That is in other words his desteny or so called "planned life or future". Planned by God who had the greatest will and strength. So nobody can change his Karma.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
And that is not Karma.