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Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Allan Allan Allan, by no means is Thanos supes inferior when it comes to strength. That is just silly its comical. Thanos is his superior when it comes to strength. Speed of course I'll give you that, but strength, no way. This fight totally limits supes mobility and thus is becomes a battle of durability and strength and that my friend means Thanos dominates
Supes has strength feats that say otherwise. Beating Surfer with charged punches doesn't mean he's stronger than Supes. I don't know why people make assumptions on strength based on a few one time scuffles.
Cpt. Marvel once sucker punched Supes and ko'd him with much fewer punches than it took Thanos to drop Surfer that one time. Are you then going to make the asssumption Marvel is above Thanos or Supes?
These guys are all strong enough that if they land a certain number of unanswered punches they are likely to drop their opponent.
The difference is that if Supes is landing punches on you, he's not going to stop until your out. It won't matter if it takes 5 minutes or 5 days, he'll hit Thanos until he drops.
Nothing in the comics would have prepared Thanos for this kind of a brawl. You see Superman has already survived damn near getting destroyed in a fight and prevailed regardless.
Thanos, though he has been in dire straits and died (Pre Death and Drax), has never been in a fight where he's been made to bleed out of his pores.
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Originally posted by Allankles
Supes has strength feats that say otherwise. Beating Surfer with charged punches doesn't mean he's stronger than Supes. I don't know why people make assumptions on strength based on a few one time scuffles.
His fight with Thor with the power gem shows a much higher level then supes has ever shown.
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Originally posted by DarkOdin
His fight with Thor with the power gem shows a much higher level then supes has ever shown.
There's a reason I didn't mention this fight. Thor landed some hammer blows and then inexplicably stopped. Allowing Thanos to get his licks in and then retreating after employing the force block gun.
I don't see any reason why Supes would stop punching Thanos, with his planet shattering blows.
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Originally posted by Allankles
There's a reason I didn't mention this fight. Thor landed some hammer blows and then inexplicably stopped. Allowing Thanos to get his licks in and then retreating after employing the force block gun.I don't see any reason why Supes would stop punching Thanos, with his planet shattering blows.
Thor is on par with supes He has casually split a country in half with a blow from mjolnir an amp verison of Thor with the power gem should be well above Supes any day of the week.
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Originally posted by DarkOdin
Thor is on par with supes He has casually split a country in half with a blow from mjolnir an amp verison of Thor with the power gem should be well above Supes any day of the week.
Thor is on par with Supes because of his energy based powers. By strength alone Supes is his superior. Superman has dynmaic strength that varies based on his will power. There's a reason why DC don't give Supes strength amps, his powers already cover that area.
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Originally posted by Allankles
Thor is on par with Supes because of his energy based powers. By strength alone Supes is his superior. Superman has dynmaic strength that varies based on his will power. There's a reason why DC don't give Supes strength amps, his powers already cover that area.
Thor and Supes Strength levels are debatable.
Even if Supes is strouger it is not by much let alone Thor with the power gem plus mjolnir
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Originally posted by Allankles
Supes has strength feats that say otherwise. Beating Surfer with charged punches doesn't mean he's stronger than Supes. I don't know why people make assumptions on strength based on a few one time scuffles.Cpt. Marvel once sucker punched Supes and ko'd him with much fewer punches than it took Thanos to drop Surfer that one time. Are you then going to make the asssumption Marvel is above Thanos or Supes?
These guys are all strong enough that if they land a certain number of unanswered punches they are likely to drop their opponent.
The difference is that if Supes is landing punches on you, he's not going to stop until your out. It won't matter if it takes 5 minutes or 5 days, he'll hit Thanos until he drops.
Nothing in the comics would have prepared Thanos for this kind of a brawl. You see Superman has already survived damn near getting destroyed in a fight and prevailed regardless.
Thanos, though he has been in dire straits and died (Pre Death and Drax), has never been in a fight where he's been made to bleed out of his pores.
That was an epic fail...
Are you really going with the Supes has more strength feats then Thanos and thus he's stronger? That is such a played out statement and never mind how big of a fallacy it is. Let me you this Allan... Doesn't it stand to reason, a hero and DC's flagship character, is going have more lifting feats being that he has to save the earth/universe almost ever issue? Isn't it also true that a hero is going to have much more feats such as these while a Villian like DS, Thanos etc etc won't? You know the answers to these so I find it amusing you use this to gauge their strength.
When Nvr used to be on this site he even agreed DS was stronger then Supes and NOT because he had more listing feats as again he's a villain. However, when DS can casually back hand supes with ease on a few occasions that tells me and others he's stronger then Supes. Supes might be the better, quicker fighter who is also really strong and a peer but IMO DS is a tad stronger.
Now, going off that line of thinking... You would agree that characters such as Hulk, Thor, Surfer, The Thing etc etc are very strong and also have very good lifting feats right? Some even that compare to Supes feats... Yet what do we notice when these super strong heroes with lifting feats face Thanos... He casually dismisses them with back hand slaps or punches them till the brink of Death with ease. When Thanos can laugh as the strength of The Hulk and The thing combined and say I'm strength personified that should tell you something. When the writer of Hulk for years says Thanos is in his own league when it comes to strength speak volumes to that point.
Point is, you don't need lifting feat after lifting feat to prove your strong or stronger then another character. Despero doesn't have those feats yet you would agree his strength is that or equal to Supes right as shown on panel? I bet you even think Supes has better Durability then Thanos right? Please, give me a chuckle again.
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Originally posted by Allankles
There's a reason I didn't mention this fight. Thor landed some hammer blows and then inexplicably stopped. Allowing Thanos to get his licks in and then retreating after employing the force block gun.
Don't act like Supes hasn't done the same, plenty of times. Or that his enemies don't do it to him. Off the top of my head, the Zod fight in For Tomorrow is a perfect example. Zod was thrashing Supes completely. Stops to chat, thrashes some more. Stops to gloat. Then gets whipped.
Thanos wouldn't do that, either. 😬
I know. But you're using a fight that only tells us Thanos can take a few hammer blows from an amped Thor. Which is not unreasonable, Thanos does have high end durability.
However it doesn't tell the story of a potential fight with Supes, who in character is going to be relentless, and who is smarter, quicker and more agile and than Thor in h2h.
Assumptions aside (Thanos' strength) Supes should have the edge here.
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Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
When Nvr used to be on this site he even agreed DS was stronger then Supes and NOT because he had more listing feats as again he's a villain.
Well, Nvr was a DS fanboy so......
I miss those days when Nvr and Quanchi ran riot here. Good times.
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Originally posted by Enyalus
Thanos wouldn't do that, either. 😬
Thanos isn't as quick as Zod either. Zod would give Superman unique problems because he's a martial artist and has similar speed. A big slower guy like Thanos is very likely going to look slow and awkward in against Superman. Weaker beings like Gamora have him look slow and awkward.
He isn't saying that Thanos is as fast as Zod. He is saying that Thor pausing for a second against Thanos works both ways, because villains such as the aforementioned Zod have done the same against Superman.
The chain here is against Superman, not in his favour. Thanos would simply do to Superman here what Marv did to Kevin in Sin City.
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Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiWhen Nvr used to be on this site he even agreed DS was stronger then Supes and NOT because he had more listing feats as again he's a villain. However, when DS can casually back hand supes with ease on a few occasions that tells me and others he's stronger then Supes. Supes might be the better, quicker fighter who is also really strong and a peer but IMO DS is a tad stronger.
Now you're arguing in favor of DS? That's a first 🙄 Anyway I've mentioned in the past about Darkseid's man handling of Supes as a gauge of his strength relative to the Man of Steel i.e. he's at least on par in the strength area.
It's not like Supes strength remains stagnant like DS' or Thanos', is it?. His powers are such that the longer he's exposed to any kind of star (outside of a red star), the more powerful he becomes.
So as he's aged over the years he's become stronger. It would be sensible to assume that Supes may have surpassed DS in the strength area.
DS of course still has a catalogue of some nasty powers, not least of all his omega beams which can counter a Superman speed blitz as they've done on panel.
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Originally posted by Allankles
Anyway I've mentioned in the past about Darkseid's man handling of Supes as a gauge of his strength relative to the Man of Steel i.e. he's at least on par in the strength area.
And Thanos has similar gauges of strength, against Thor and other opponents in or around Superman's weight class. And above it.