colnetus...? (magneto + colossus) vs superman

when a star runs out of it's normal fuel, it burns (or after burns) the outer layers around the core of iirc helium (that it created during it's life) causing it to expand and give off a redder wavelength of solar energy.

so it's basically boils down to what raw elements the sun is fusing to make fuel, the size of the star just depends on if it will die a dwarf, a red giant, a pulsar, or a singularity.

but i rather not say magneto could do it, just seems far out of character.

krypyonians don't undergo their form of APT with anything but yellow solar energy, and for some reason red solar energy saps the already stored power from their cells.

Originally posted by Timslar
It's only what he's been shown to do. You're not debating with me because you can't. But you're pretending otherwise.

Oh Lord... haermm

I love posters that have an unjustified pretentiousness about them.

Originally posted by Timslar
To put it simply, gamma radiation comes from the same "stuff" that red sun radiation does. This "stuff" Magneto controls. I'm saying that since Magneto controls this "stuff" then Magneto can control this "stuff." The Hulk also gets his power from a part of this "stuff," (Like Superman) and since Magneto controls "stuff" he was able to drain Hulk's "stuff" turning him into Banner. Shooting stars out of behinds isn't this "stuff" so your example isn't just "to that degree" but not relevant at all. What I suggested was the "stuff" of relevance.

Magneto has never drained the Hulk of his gamma radiation before, to my recollection. You must be thinking of Surfer. 😬

But if you are indeed thinking of Magneto, scans or issue numbers would be most appreciated. 🙂

I've read damn near all of Magneto's appearances, and off the top of my head, the only instances I've seen of Magneto directly manipulating "EM radiation" is...

A. When he shielded himself from Dazzler's light blast, and then redirected her photons back at her.

B. When he used infrared radiation to cause a metal door to glow white hot and then explode. And even that's just my own take, considering nothing was mentioned of infrared manipulation.

Also, it's blatantly stated in his bio that since manipulation of the EM spectrum is difficult for him, he almost always sticks to regular magnetism.

It's rather ridiculous to say that Magneto will be able to cut off Superman's access to the sun and then douse him with red sun radiation. 😬

Originally posted by Timslar
We're on a forum where we have theoretical fights. If someone claims Superman would use super strength against, I don't care, Wolverine, then we work with that. It's valid because it's part of his power set. And I'd never make any suggestion that wasn't.

That's a horrendously facetious example that's not even close to being analogous to this at all.

Originally posted by Timslar
Your argument is "lol that's silly." even when I've told you why he'd be able to accomplish these feats.

If you can't understand that, then I'm guess I'm done. I couldn't put it more simply. 🙁

No, I get it. Like I said before though, while your ideas sound good in theory, it's nothing but speculation that can't be backed up with on panel evidence. 😬

I would say this magneto collossus person could travel pretty damn fast since he would be able to literally go as fast as his magnetic powers are strong.

speed blitz!!!

Originally posted by r0nm0n88
speed blitz!!!

Lol... Magneto finally speed blitz Supes!!!! I mean in thoery it's very possible with this colossus body. Along with this ttheory he would be able to make him Very Strong.

Originally posted by batdude123
Oh Lord... haermm

I love posters that have an unjustified pretentiousness about them.

Originally posted by batdude123

B. When he used infrared radiation to cause a metal door to glow white hot and then explode. And even that's just my own take, considering nothing was mentioned of infrared manipulation.

I think that between Magneto not having many EM spectrum feats like this on panel combined with it being difficult for him combined with the DC universe being perhaps unfamiliar and different for him (to control the laws of physics of) I don't think it would be real fair to assume Magneto able to pull off red sun or kryptonite manipulation either one. The amalgram will still win though. Colossus' added strength and durability add extra insurance in case Magneto is distracted from amping or unprepared for speed blitzing.

magneto is quite the multi-tasker....he aint gettin distracted especially by Super-MAN

Originally posted by Juntai
That was actually him probably agitating the molecules of the metal.

How the fck is Mags supposed to produce red sun radiation? He cant manip energies like that.

Originally posted by The Nuul
How the fck is Mags supposed to produce red sun radiation? He cant manip energies like that.

He can't manipulate electromagnetic radiation? Sure he can.

What I'm arguing about is the production of said red solar radiation, and being able to stop Superman from absorbing more of the sun's radiation. Neither of which I see Magneto being able to do.

Originally posted by Juntai
That was actually him probably agitating the molecules of the metal.

Definite possibility.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
it can only be that.

You're using an absolute term on a speculative incident? 😬

Originally posted by batdude123

You're using an absolute term on a speculative incident? 😬

Nah man I saw him.. he was there. He knows... 😉

Originally posted by batdude123
He can't manipulate electromagnetic radiation? Sure he can.

What I'm arguing about is the production of said red solar radiation, and being able to stop Superman from absorbing more of the sun's radiation. Neither of which I see Magneto being able to do.

Thats what I am saying also, he cant reproduce the red sun rad on his level or with his powers. SS might be able to because of his level and experience with energy manip. Yes he can manipulate electromagnetic radiation but not to make red solar radiation.

Originally posted by batdude123
You're using an absolute term on a speculative incident? 😬

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Nah man I saw him.. he was there. He knows... 😉

✅

What a doucher. uhuh

Originally posted by batdude123
and being able to stop Superman from absorbing more of the sun's radiation.

I don't see why this couldn't be feasible. I recall instances where Magneto has manipulated light and photons to an incredible degree. The fight with Dazzler comes to mind.

Yeah, but not to that degree, and even then, Superman's got days worth of energy supply already in his body. Even if Magneto were somehow capable of cutting him off, it wouldn't do him any good, unless he thought he could somehow last the next few days.

Superman can blitz Mags faster than Mags can think!!