Chthon vs HoM Wanda

Started by Peterlane6 pages
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
I see. So again you're blaming something you don't like or agree with on bad writing and/or PIS?

http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=22557

I'm not reading that whole thing. Quote where he says it's bad, please.

You both do realize it was exceedingly popular and is still being used to this day right?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
I see. So again you're blaming something you don't like or agree with on bad writing and/or PIS?

sly

For every issue someone reads, they form an opinion of it. Whether they consider, it a good comic/event, an okay comic/event, or a bad comic/event, they will clearly form an opinion of it.

What's their to call plot induced stupidity? I'm referring to the arc/event in general. If you enjoyed it, that's great. I don't agree with your taste but that's your opinion.

It's in my opinion, and in a great deal of other peoples opinion that the House of M was poorly written and was simply an excuse to kill off mutants and give them some more stories as marvel admitted.

There is a difference with not agreeing with something that was written as it goes against continuity and calling it plot induced stupidity and having an opinion on the level of writing involved in an entire arc and so on. I for example, think that the War of Kings is an okay event. Could be better, but that specific fight between Vulcan and Black Bolt was a clear sign of utter stupidity.

Think before you post.

Kiel Phegley: Smokey17 asked after the same scene from a different angle: "Awhile back you said you had two genies to put back in the bottle. One was the marriage and didn't specify what the second one was. Can you give us a little hint on what the second genie is?"

Joe Quesada: Boy, it’s a good thing I say these things on the internet, over and over and over again, because I wouldn’t want to be misquoted. [laughs] Hey there, Smokey17, what I’ve said in the past was that there were three genies that I wanted to get back in the bottle.

* Cut down the number of mutants so that they became special again. See “House of M.”
* Make the Marvel Universe as unpredictable a place as it was in the early 1960s. See “Civil War.”
* Bring Peter Parker back to single status. See “One More Day.”

So, no hints necessary, so far all missions accomplished and it only took me close to ten years.

I’m so tired.

So basically the dumbest shit they could think of and mission accomplished? Marvel can suck my balls sack too.

And that is why Quesada is an incompetent idiot.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
For every issue someone reads, they form an opinion of it. Whether they consider, it a good comic/event, an okay comic/event, or a bad comic/event, they will clearly form an opinion of it.

Exactly. In your case it's stupid or bad writing if it doesn't agree with your standards. Marvel disagrees with you.

What's their to call plot induced stupidity? I'm referring to the arc/event in general. If you enjoyed it, that's great. I don't agree with your taste but that's your opinion.

I said and/or PIS Einstein. Pay attention.

It's in my opinion, and in a great deal of other peoples opinion that the House of M was poorly written and was simply an excuse to kill off mutants and give them some more stories as marvel admitted.

Again, Marvel disagrees with you and these imaginary people. It was an exceedingly popular arc that sold very well. It's still being used to this day with great success.

There is a difference with not agreeing with something that was written as it goes against continuity and calling it plot induced stupidity and having an opinion on the level of writing involved in an entire arc and so on. I for example, think that the War of Kings is an okay event. Could be better, but that specific fight between Vulcan and Black Bolt was a clear sign of utter stupidity.

Think before you post.

How was that fight stupid?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Exactly. In your case it's stupid or bad writing if it doesn't agree with your standards. Marvel disagrees with you.

I tolerate you. Obviously my standards aren't very high. I just dislike poorly written arcs and stupidity.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
I said and/[B]or PIS Einstein. Pay attention. [/B]

And I simply went to describe the difference between forming an opinion about an event and calling a specific showing plot induced stupidity Einstein.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Again, Marvel disagrees with you and these imaginary people. It was an exceedingly popular arc that sold very well. It's still being used to this day with great success.

They aren't imaginary. We aren't talking about your friends here. A great deal of people have called this arc shit. It's not my fault that a lot of people are stupid as you would personally know. I've seen a petition to ban water, and the people who signed it went into the hundreds in terms of number.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
How was that fight stupid?

You mean it going against these characters continuity and showings isn't enough for you?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I tolerate you. Obviously my standards aren't very high. I just dislike poorly written arcs and stupidity.

You have no choice but tolerate your betters.

And I simply went to describe the difference between forming an opinion about an event and calling a specific showing plot induced stupidity Einstein.

No, you went on to explain something totally irrelevant. I stated you've used the PIS argument many times in the past. But in the instance you used bad writing. Another excuse you hand onto.

They aren't imaginary. We aren't talking about your friends here. A great deal of people have called this arc shit. It's not my fault that a lot of people are stupid as you would personally know. I've seen a petition to ban water, and the people who signed it went into the hundreds in terms of number.

They are imaginary. Either that or they're the same morons who keep shouting that Loebs Hulk is the worst written crap ever yet still line up at the comic shop 1 wednesday a month to buy it. That book is selling insanely well, it out-sold Final Crisis.

You mean it going against these characters continuity and showings isn't enough for you?

Or going against what you personally think the characters continuity should be.

Like I said.

no wonder you have A-Bomb as your sig and avy. I'm sure you enjoyed Ultimates 3 and Ultimatum

Know wonder?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
You have no choice but tolerate your betters.

I would have no choice but unfortunately for you, your far from my better. I tolerate you out of pity.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
No, you went on to explain something totally irrelevant. I stated you've used the PIS argument many times in the past. But in the instance you used bad writing. Another excuse you hand onto.

Read my post.

"Hand" onto?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
They are imaginary. Either that or they're the same morons who keep shouting that Loebs Hulk is the worst written crap ever yet still line up at the comic shop 1 wednesday a month to buy it. That book is selling insanely well, it out-sold Final Crisis.

I see that you've at least made some progress. At least you admit your friends are imaginary

It's not the worst written comic but it's a contender. Right up there with Ultimatum, Loeb's other master piece. The fact that you might be enjoying that comic, shows how low your standards are. Now I know how you tolerate to look into the mirror every morning.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Or going against what you personally think the characters continuity should be.

Like I said.

Not what I personally think the characters continuity should be. This isn't your fan fiction time. It goes against what's the established continuity and power levels for these characters. You know, something that Loeb tends to ignore.

Wanda walks through him with a mere thought.

Where's Trick been, he'd have a blast with these new trolls lately...lol

Originally posted by Peterlane

The fact that Wanda used a fraction of his power to cause M.Day is enough proof.


I never read that anywhere.

Originally posted by Peterlane

HoM Wanda is a fraction of HIS power.


😐 ..huh? ... this, isn't like true.

Originally posted by Peterlane

Same goes for Chthon, he gave SW a fraction of his powers which she used to cause M-Day.


nono

Originally posted by theICONiac

Did she in fact obtain her power through Chthon?


That's an outlandish fallacy.

Chthon has absolutely nothing to do with HOM Wanda's feats,
or even Wanda before HOM.

Chthon briefly once took possession of Wanda's body/power & abilities,
but was later owned by 6 Avengers, and thus helping Wanda separate herself from Chthon,
for ever.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33

I Didn't he prove that it was Wanda's inherent mutation which allowed her to warp reality?


👆 .. That's a fact!

stoned