Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."Or the quote you used to have.
and how!
I might be missing something, but imho, it is the freedom from which all other freedoms come.
Originally posted by Sado22
in an appropriate places and time.
what lil did was inappropriate. and uncalled for.
inappropriate schminappropriate
speech needs to be free or there is no point
if you don't like it, don't create threads which invite it
if you can't deal with people on the internet calling Mohammed a pedophile, unplug your modem
And calm your twisted head. I replied to your PM before you posted this.
speech needs to be free or there is no point. if you don't like it, don't create threads which invite it. if you can't deal with people on the internet calling Mohammed a pedophile, unplug your modem
also, i can and am handling mohammed being called a pedophile. however, this wasn't about mohammed being a pedophle. it was about lil's comment on muslim men's hygiene. stop staring at my sig and read whats going on! 😎
~Sado
See, isn't it suspicious that every example you are making is about lil? This is why it is fatuous to think that I'll believe that this was not aimed at her.
No-one is supporting baseless attacks on anything. But you clearly state that relgiion should not be bashed at all. That's what people are at issue with.
Originally posted by Sado22
calm as a cucumber, mate.beautifully put.
an excuse to pull random, baseless shit out of nowhwere and throw a tantrum when people prove you wrong.
now please understand the difference between "free speech" and "talking out of your ass". freedom of speech is a HUGE responsibility. your right to say what you want is balanced equally by being responsible for what you say.
freedom of speech is [b]notalso, i can and am handling mohammed being called a pedophile. however, this wasn't about mohammed being a pedophle. it was about lil's comment on muslim men's hygiene. stop staring at my sig and read whats going on! 😎
~Sado [/B]
I warned you to stop.
Originally posted by Sado22
beautifully put.
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Originally posted by Sado22
now please understand the difference between "free speech" and "talking out of your ass".
indeed. One is a freedom which the state does not have, nor should be allowed, the power to regulate, and the other is the consequence of talking knowledgeably about a subject you are ill informed of.
They are, essentially, in no way related, other than to say that freedom of speech explicitly allows people to lie, say things they are mistaken about, make shit up on the spot, and be insulting or offensive towards others.
Originally posted by Sado22
freedom of speech is a HUGE responsibility. your right to say what you want is balanced equally by being responsible for what you say.
only when talking about civil decorum. I agree, I wouldn't slander the religion of a friend, nor expect any constructive diologue to come out of doing so.
It is still allowed and acceptable. Freedom of speech, as in, the actual human freedom, is bound by no such issues of "being responsible for what you say", other than in strict consequentialist terms.
Originally posted by Sado22
freedom of speech is [b]not an excuse to pull random, baseless shit out of nowhwere and throw a tantrum when people prove you wrong.[/B]
in fact, it is, and further, must be
Originally posted by Sado22
also, i can and am handling mohammed being called a pedophile. however, this wasn't about mohammed being a pedophle. it was about lil's comment on muslim men's hygiene.
ok, so if you can't handle people making incorrect or insulting comments about the hygiene rules in Islam, don't discuss them on the internet.
Originally posted by Sado22
stop staring at my sig and read whats going on! 😎
You have twice mentioned lil's comments about Mohammed as a pedophile in this thread, when discussing specific things she has said that you found offensive. This is your first mention of the discussion you were having with her about hygiene in this thread.
By, in fact, reading what you had posted, I got the impression that it was the pedophile comment, and not the hygiene one, that stirred you up.
Sado Made some Valid Points.
Yesterday I was going to make such a thread.
Debating the rights and wrongs of bashing people who pray too much
The Lady next door is really annoying.
Ironic considering I agree with her Religion.
From following this discussion and the simillarly Themed French Burkini Thread I've identified the best possible way in which to Resolve the issue with The girl next door.
As to the Feuding It is clear Sado is being penalised for excercising and defending his right to free speech.
In the French Thread Sado corrected Lies posted by his aggressor
As to this thread and Bashing Religion.
When done in the presence of A religious person it is a form of verbal abuse As is detailed in Employment Law. Ignorance is no Defense.
If it happens in a social setting it constitutes harrassment. Law Enforcement has provisions against disturbing the peace. Clubs, Restuarants, Retail and Sporting venues have power to remove from the premises Members of the public who engage in spontaneous acts of Religion Bashing. Usually They will ask you politely to Leave before calling security
The same is true for Trains/ Coaches/ Buses and Airlines. Passengers who indulge in Religion Bashing can be discharged at the discretion of the Staff.
Terms and conditions enabled when Passengers purchase tickets will protect the Travel Provider in A court of Law.
No, Sado is punished for continuing personal attack, making a thread which does not address issues of bashing religion, but having a jab/troll/bash at me.
He's not defending his right to free speech, he's upset someone dissed his religion, when in this forum, every prophet religion demonination is being critisized/bashed/dissed.
It just so happened that everyone is too chicken shit to say anything about muslims, while other demonimation is free for all.
I'm not a Christian, but it would be offencive that Sado said in another thread that ''God to be stabbed 18 times in front of Jesus''.
Before this thread becomes troll fest - it is getting closed.