Originally posted by PeterlaneHercs goal was to get away as fast as possible he didn't want Choi in danger and it wasn't his fight anyway he's a fugitive why would he stay and slug it out?
Herc said Bob wasn't fighting like he meant it and Herc doing anything to win hits him in the nuts. Who jokes around by hitting someone in the nuts? Slap boxing is bitching someone, but being a ***** is hitting someone in the nuts.
Originally posted by PeterlaneAnd this fight won't be much different
I didn't say the move was invalid. Herc did anything to win and Sentry was holding back which Herc acknowledged
From the rules thread.
Originally posted by Badabing
Character Induced Stupidity, or CIS, on the other hand, refers to any natural mental limitations that characters impose upon themselves and reduce their ability to use their own skills and powers effectively. Unlike PIS, CIS does not occur because the plot requires it, but because the character is genuinely that dumb. Examples of the CIS-afflicted include characters such as Rhino or Jar Jar Binks. Events of CIS are not exempt from debates.
Originally posted by =Pr-
Clarification of CISOk people, here are the finalised rules as regards PIS, CIS, and everything related to it.
PIS is, as always, off unless the thread starter says it's ON.
CIS, as was said before, is now a more diverse term, but is not as vague as before.
While CIS still exists in the form of characters like Rhino (who are just too stupid to know better), it also exists in one other form.
This is known as Character Inhibited Power. This applies to characters that have intelligence, like the Silver Surfer, Superman, and so on and so forth.
As Bada said:
"It's a self imposed limitation in certain circumstances which there is concern for civilians and buildings for the most part. It's not stupidity, it's a limitation set until the threat exceeds a certain threshold."
What this means is that people like the Surfer and Superman and so on will not use the full extent of their powers if it will endanger civilians. It doesn't, though, mean they will fight like idiots. The character's personality is an integral part of the match and dictates how they will perform. This is the crux of the rules we've come up with. It doesn't come down to powers, it comes down to the man or woman that weilds them.
In accordance with this, several factors come in to play in debates:
The Opponent, Basic Information, the Arena and the Character's Personality and Experience
Those four are key.
Example:
If Martian Manhunter fights say, Juggernaut.
MM doesn't personally know Juggernaut (Opponent). So he has Basic Information. This is categorised as being what the general public would know about the Juggernaut. It goes by averages. If that average man or woman on the street knows that Juggernaut is super strong, then MM knows. The average man or woman doesn't know, however, that the Juggernaut is weak against psionics. J'onn would approach with caution, not knowing whether Juggernaut was in his weight class, and not knowing the full extent of the man's powers.
However. If Martian Manhunter went up against Amazo, he would know to go for broke right at the start, because he KNOWS Amazo (Personality and Experience). He will use his speed, his strength, his shapeshifting. This is because if he knows what it takes to bring down Amazo, or he believes his standard attacks won't work. If J'onn was fighting Juggernaut, there would come a point when he would realise that normal attacks won't work, and would up his game. Any character that doesn't suffer from Rhino-esque stupidity is capable of this. Even with this, though, the Arena comes in to play. If civilians are in danger, J'onn won't shapeshift in to a fire breathing dragon. Juggernaut on the other hand doesn't care, so wouldn't hesitate to toss cars and trucks full of civilians at the Martian.
Examples:
Thor knows he can't out-brawl Hulk, so uses exotic powers sooner than he would against the likes of Superman, as Superman is an unknown to him.
Superman would go all out against Doomsday or Despero because he knows how powerful they are. Against the Hulk, he's going to take a few punches before realising he'll have to use something rather than slugging it out. He won't bathe the street in heat vision either, because there are civilians nearby.
It ALL comes down to the CHARACTER, not the POWERSET.
Now quit whining about it. unless the OP said that this was CIS free, CIS is not exempt from debates.
Originally posted by Peterlane
Take it from me effeminate/***** men are better with women than macho men. Herc is did anything he can and Sentry held back
Yeah Herc is really fighting his homosexuality by bathing with many women while they feed him grapes and tend to his every need. If he was gay then the women wouldn't like the experience they had with him. I suppose Northstar is the manliest man ever, but part of this sounds like you're speaking from personal experience. Anyway team wins.
Originally posted by iceman24567
That has nothing to do with my example even if that were true just trolling i assume.
It's not trolling it is true. Read Dark X-Men begginings. Namor would go 1 on 1 against anyone but listens to Norman Osborne because he fears Sentry, he could easily hit him in the nuts and pull on his cape right?