Originally posted by Trackz
basically, sabretooth doesn't like using firearms so h doesn't, blade does like using firearms so he does, sabretooth doesn't use guns for the same reason wolverine and omega red don't, they don't really think they need to and they like getting their hands dirty in a fight.
Racist. 😐
Originally posted by TrackzThat's irrelevant. He did not suddenly lose the ability to use firearms.
after his most recent upgrades, when has he used a firearm?
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Is the rule you're violating.
His personality didn't massively change either. There is no reason to say that he can't use the guns if he feels like it since its been shown itn the past that he can and is willing to after such a change.
YOU might decide to change your mind about things after you are, however there's not proof that Sabertooth would.
You'd have to prove that his personality changed after the upgrades, which is hasn't. he was a homicidal killer before and he's a homicidal killer after.
Hell his time with the X-Men showed that his personality doesn't change.
and blade's sword has more range than wolverines claws, so if wolverine slashes sabretooth and it opens up his gut, the same strike with the range of blades sword would cut him in half, thats what i meant.
Originally posted by Creshosk
That's irrelevant. He did not suddenly lose the ability to use firearms.This:
Is the rule you're violating.
His personality didn't massively change either. There is no reason to say that he can't use the guns if he feels like it since its been shown itn the past that he can and is willing to after such a change.
YOU might decide to change your mind about things after you are, however there's not proof that Sabertooth would.
You'd have to prove that his personality changed after the upgrades, which is hasn't. he was a homicidal killer before and he's a homicidal killer after.
Hell his time with the X-Men showed that his personality doesn't change.
did i say he ost the ability to use firearms? I said he no longer wanted/needed to after receiving his latest upgrades.
I never said he CAN"t I said that he WON'T, those are very different, I'm saaying that he no longer felt that he needed to use fire arms since he could cause so much more damage by getting in close and ripping his way through his opponents, which has been his perferred way of fighting, if he wanted a gun he would wear one on his person he has access to them, he chooses not to use them.
Same reason Wolverine chooses not to use swords in his fights, is it because he doesn't like them? no. Is it because he can't use them? no. It is because he no longer requires a sword when he's housing 6 unbreakable claws.
Originally posted by Survivor19
No, it won't. Blade doesn't have sufficient strength to do it, seeing as Archangel's wings failed to do so.
Also, how often do you see Wolverine gutting Creed? Because it is not often. And most likely won't happen here.
i could go in the respect thread and bring out an xample, but i believe battlehammer posted a scan to showcase creeds healing in which sabretooth grabs wolverine and wolverine slices his hand off, and in their last fight wolverine was landing a lot of hits and they were both bleding out, in creeds fight with deadpool, deadpool managed to weaken cred before finally going at him with the sword (and by then sabretooth was weakened enough for deadpool to dodge him easily)
and what makes you think blade isn't strong enough to cut through creed with an adamantium sword?
Originally posted by TrackzWhich you haven't proven. its within his personality. As as his stay with the X-Men shows massive events do not change his personality.
did i say he ost the ability to use firearms? I said he no longer wanted/needed to after receiving his latest upgrades. []/b]
Originally posted by TrackzWhich has already been disproven. If he feels the need he'll use the gun. As he's shown in the past.
[B]I never said he CAN"t I said that he WON'T, those are very different,
Originally posted by TrackzIrrelevant. He;'s shown to use them when he feels the need, that's part of his personality.
I'm saaying that he no longer felt that he needed to use fire arms since he could cause so much more damage by getting in close and ripping his way through his opponents, which has been his perferred way of fighting, if he wanted a gun he would wear one on his person he has access to them, he chooses not to use them.
By saying he won't you're telling the sabertooth supporters that they can't. which is effectively saying he cant. Which is a rules violation.
Originally posted by TrackzBut Wolverine has shown to use a sword if he wants to. Just because they have other options that they prefer does NOT mean that they won't use it if they feel like it.
Same reason Wolverine chooses not to use swords in his fights, is it because he doesn't like them? no. Is it because he can't use them? no. It is because he no longer requires a sword when he's housing 6 unbreakable claws.
Your intellectual dishonesty does nothing to support your cause.
If Sabertooth should feel like using the guns is the better choice he will. AS HAS BEEN PROVEN.
Originally posted by TrackzWait are you talking about the muramasa blade?
i could go in the respect thread and bring out an xample, but i believe battlehammer posted a scan to showcase creeds healing in which sabretooth grabs wolverine and wolverine slices his hand off, and in their last fight wolverine was landing a lot of hits and they were both bleding out, in creeds fight with deadpool, deadpool managed to weaken cred before finally going at him with the sword (and by then sabretooth was weakened enough for deadpool to dodge him easily)and what makes you think blade isn't strong enough to cut through creed with an adamantium sword?
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWHe said Sabertooth and wolverine's last fight.... If I recall Wolverine had the muramasa blade and that's how he finally killed sabertooth.
He isn't.
Which is why that was their last fight... because they have a more wolverine like villian than sabertooth in the form of daken.
Originally posted by Trackz
i could go in the respect thread and bring out an xample, but i believe battlehammer posted a scan to showcase creeds healing in which sabretooth grabs wolverine and wolverine slices his hand off
Originally posted by Trackz
and in their last fight wolverine was landing a lot of hits and they were both bleding out
I concede to your point about deadpool fight. Is that the right word? I'm not a native speaker. Anyway, you are more correct, then me. Sabertooth was indeed slowed down after being damaged by bullets. But i should note he was still fast and strong enough to go offensive on deadpool, and was seemingly getting stronger as he was being healed.
and what makes you think blade isn't strong enough to cut through creed with an adamantium sword?
Originally posted by Creshosk
Which you haven't proven. its within his personality. As as his stay with the X-Men shows massive events do not change his personality.Which has already been disproven. If he feels the need he'll use the gun. As he's shown in the past.
Irrelevant. He;'s shown to use them when he feels the need, that's part of his personality.
By saying he won't you're telling the sabertooth supporters that they can't. which is effectively saying he cant. Which is a rules violation.
But Wolverine has shown to use a sword if he wants to. Just because they have other options that they prefer does NOT mean that they won't use it if they feel like it.
Your intellectual dishonesty does nothing to support your cause.
If Sabertooth should feel like using the guns is the better choice he will. AS HAS BEEN PROVEN.
-why do you think wolverine doesn't use guns or swords when they are available to him?
-you're saying if he needs to use a gun, why would he need to use a gun i nthis fight? what makes this fight different than any other?
- no it's not saying the same at all, wolverine/sabretooth don't use swords and guns not because they can't use them but because they dont want to, bot hhave taken on hordes of armed men, but rather than pick up the weapons they drop, they ignore them and move on fighting it's because they prefer to use their abilities and the ycan cause more damage that way.
- does wolverine choose to use a sword over his claws? no. it's that simple he has used swords before but if you gave him the choice of fighting with his claws or with a sword which do you think he would choose? Sabretooth often has the choice but he chooses to go the H2H route nearly every time
Originally posted by Creshosk
He said Sabertooth and wolverine's last fight.... If I recall Wolverine had the muramasa blade and that's how he finally killed sabertooth.Which is why that was their last fight... because they have a more wolverine like villian than sabertooth in the form of daken.
He mentioned their last fight later.
i could go in the respect thread and bring out an xample, but i believe battlehammer posted a scan to showcase creeds healing in which sabretooth grabs wolverine and wolverine slices his hand off
Here, Tracks was talking about their first (according to Loeb) encounter.
Originally posted by Survivor19
Hmmm...
Their "first fight" in Japan, right before Creed placing his arm right back?In their last fight Logan decapitated Creed with Muramasa Blade. Now, what are you referring to?
I concede to your point about deadpool fight. Is that the right word? I'm not a native speaker. Anyway, you are more correct, then me. Sabertooth was indeed slowed down after being damaged by bullets. But i should note he was still fast and strong enough to go offensive on deadpool, and was seemingly getting stronger as he was being healed.
Cut through? Maybe.
But thing is, i don't recall Logan ever severing Victor's bone with his claws. Therefore, i don't believe Blade would be able to sever his spine.
yeah that's it, and that blade wasn't even adamantium and adamantium is harder than creeds bones so it shouldn't be much of an issue should it?
he was, but it did weaken him, I'm not saying Blade is going to be doiing this easily, but i do think in this scenario he edges him out slightly, the bullets should tax his healing and weaken him overall, and yeah concede is the right word