Hercules vs a Gauntlet

Originally posted by Master Court
Juggernaut vs WWHulk was obviously Jugg's momentum

Originally posted by nicamarvin
NO.....WAR was push way back because Juggernaut´s momentum, Juggernaut does NOT need momentum to push normal Hulk afew steps back, all he needs its Incalculable strenght... 😛

War stopped Juggernaut. What difference does that make in Jugg's versus WWHulk? It just proves War may have been stronger than WWHulk. Either way, it just proves Jugg's is not as strong as War in strength OR unstoppable momentum.

In any case, it WAS momentum vs strength against WWHulk. Otherwise Juggernaut would not have ran that fast all that way into the middle of the lake without even having the time to THINK of stopping. Obviously a momentum issue.

Originally posted by Master Court
War stopped Juggernaut.

Originally posted by Master Court

What difference does that make in Jugg's versus WWHulk?

I think he can outlast Sups but gets beated by A-Bomb

Originally posted by Master Court
Juggernaut vs WWHulk was obviously Jugg's momentum, that's why Hulk was able to side-step him into the lake. If it weren't Jugg's momentum, Jugg's would've just tripped when Hulk side-stepped him. There's really no way to say it was definitely strength vs strength. But the side-step BFR is BIG evidence to show it was momentum.

Uhh he was tripping. He didn't go running into the lake until Hulk spun around and pushed him.

He was using pure strength against WWH.

i would like feats of raw strength from juggs. w/o him using momentum

Matching and even surpassing the strength of arguably the strongest Hulk to date is impressive enough.

I say he stops at Kal

Originally posted by Warlord
I say he stops at Kal

He's not beating Juggernaut.

I think he's talking about the thread good friend. He's saying Kal beats Hercules in an arm wresting match.

Yeah but wouldn't Cain do it to since he's before him?

I ignored that list to be honest.

IMO Herc's strength is sufficient to take Juggs out after struggle unless his enchantment somehow interfers with armwrestling too

You're entitled to your opinion, but Hercules' strength was no match for WWH. Juggernaut's was.

I remember Herc not fighting back in their encounter while Juggernaut (in general) was more of a match for Hulk due to his forcefield and enchantment coupled by strength.

I mean if Cyttorak's magic works here too Herc looses otherwise through the years we've seen more strength feats from Herc

Originally posted by Warlord
I remember Herc not fighting back in their encounter while Juggernaut (in general) was more of a match for Hulk due to his forcefield and enchantment coupled by strength.

I mean if Cyttorak's magic works here too Herc looses otherwise through the years we've seen more strength feats from Herc

He didn't use his forcefield during that fight. It's not always on, only when he summons it.

He wasn't using his forcefield or unstoppability against WWH. He used strength and skill. He alluded to this when he admitted the only reason he wanted Cyttorak to send him to NY was so he could prove he was better than the Hulk.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
He wasn't using his forcefield or unstoppability against WWH. He used strength and skill. He alluded to this when he admitted the only reason he wanted Cyttorak to send him to NY was so he could prove he was better than the Hulk.

still he was fighting Hulk while Herc wasn't.
I think it's not valid to relly only in this instant to deside on Cains superiority in strength when overall Herc has more strength feats.

I still believe Juggs would beat Herc in a fight due to superior durability and stamina but as for strength I'd say Herc is slightly above him.

by the way has he ever been shown to actually summon the forcefield?
(just asking...)

Yes.

Also, it has been shown that Juggernaut has dynamic strength.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Yes.

Also, it has been shown that Juggernaut has dynamic strength.

dynamic, like growing (hulk style)?

nice....
some scans would be very appreciated 😉