Originally posted by Peterlanejean is one with the phoenix when phoenix force comes out. jean grey getting out of bed every day isnt phoenix unless she decides to let out. jeans mutation is her telepathy and ability to move objects and stuff with her mind. the power of the phoenix was a gift had nothing to do with her mutation growing up
If you read the comics you know that shit gets retconned. Jeans mutation is too become the phoenix, you opinion doesn't matter.
Originally posted by chomperx9
jean is one with the phoenix when phoenix force comes out. jean grey getting out of bed every day isnt phoenix unless she decides to let out. jeans mutation is her telepathy and ability to move objects and stuff with her mind. the power of the phoenix was a gift had nothing to do with her mutation growing up
Sorry but it's been retconned. Her mutation is the phoenix, and again you are wrong, she was already connected to Phoenix when she was 1st manipulated her powers
Originally posted by id369[B]White Phoenix of the Crown ?
Yes she is the most unique of all the other Avatars. Because she is not the host or an avatar. Her mutation lead to become one with the manifested Phoenix Force.Note: Food For thought, originally Phoenix was suppose to be psyche (personification) of Jean herself, and not a separate entity. In other words the Phoenix Force was Jeans new personality, to signify how she has now unleashed her dormant Omega level potential. But that was changed shortly after.
The authors comment on this, when they interviewed themselves in the uncensored (non cannon) release “Phoenix: The Untold Story”.You can find the official Bio here:
http://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=phoenixforce18cl.jpg
http://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=phoenixforce28cr.jpgAnyhow following the retconed events. The Phoenix manifested itself to Jean in X-Men #100.
But you don’t really see her strut her stuff until X-Men #105. Ware Jean proceeds to lay the smack down on Firelord (Herald of Galactus).
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3845/jean1ma1.jpg
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1926/jean2ix0.jpg
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5552/jean4qi5.jpg
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/4892/jean5mc3.jpgIts in X-Man #108, that you encounter Jean feat of saving the Multiverse (retconed from universe).
By recharging the Stasis field (lattice Barrier), keep note this Lattice is made of anti-energy field. Yet Jeans energy managed to replenish it.
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/3947/mkraaneg6.jpg
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9338/mkraan2rr6.jpg
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/1620/kraan23jc3.jpgHere is an interesting feat. Her senses have expanded to such degree, that it is intone down to energy and atomic reading.
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4693342 [/B]
I accept your concession
Originally posted by chomperx9
jean is one with the phoenix when phoenix force comes out. jean grey getting out of bed every day isnt phoenix unless she decides to let out. jeans mutation is her telepathy and ability to move objects and stuff with her mind. the power of the phoenix was a gift had nothing to do with her mutation growing up
Jean is Phoenix
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4922/newxmen148pyrate11ik1.jpg
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8720/newxmen148pyrate12hl1.jpg
Anyways back on topic. Xavier wins since it's not God-Cable
Originally posted by Peterlaneyes jean is phoenix but you have it in your head shes phoenix 24/7
Jean is Phoenixhttp://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4922/newxmen148pyrate11ik1.jpg
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8720/newxmen148pyrate12hl1.jpgAnyways back on topic. Xavier wins since it's not God-Cable
Originally posted by Peterlaneim making a point that phoenix force doesnt always come out. for example jean grey can have a psychic battle with xavier or someone else without the power of the phoenix or she can have a psychic battle with phoenix force.
He is trying to make a silly comparison.e.g Magento isn't the master of magnetism because he doesn't use his power when he takes a shit. 🙄
and yes magento does use his power when he takes a sh!t. cause when he flushes he uses his power
Originally posted by chomperx9
im making a point that phoenix force doesnt always come out. for example jean grey can have a psychic battle with xavier or someone else without the power of the phoenix or she can have a psychic battle with phoenix force.and yes magento does use his power when he takes a sh!t. cause when he flushes he uses his power
Even without tapping into the Phoenix Jean stomps Xavier and almost anyone on that list.
And he flushes AFTER he takes a shit 🙄
Originally posted by thanos-prime
got any non-phoenix feats that put her above xavier
Thats like saying do I have any Iceman feats that put him at at least herald level in his snowman form.
Jeans full potential in which she has reached is Phoenix, before that she was as useless as snowman Bobby.
Basically since the Jean = Phoenix thing she has only manifested her powers as the phoenix, even to do simple tasks like putting on the shower.
Originally posted by Peterlaneyou said even without tapping into the phoenix jean stomps anyone on the list so your taking that back?
Thats like saying do I have any Iceman feats that put him at at least herald level in his snowman form.Jeans full potential in which she has reached is Phoenix, before that she was as useless as snowman Bobby.
Basically since the Jean = Phoenix thing she has only manifested her powers as the phoenix, even to do simple tasks like putting on the shower.
