Lich King Vs. Azeroth

The lich king to me is an obvious winner being able to summon hordes of undead to kill horde & alliance then revive those who were killed as more undead....he has an endluss army of obeying soldiers willing to do anything to satisfy there king...clearly lich king is the winner

i think hes just obviously more powerful, hes rated higher than all entities thus far, including old Gods who are respected and feared.

Originally posted by Burning thought
i think hes just obviously more powerful, hes rated higher than all entities thus far, including old Gods who are respected and feared.

No. So much no that simply using the word "no" is not enough. Lich King would win due to sheer numbers and strategy if anything, not due to individual power. There are numerous characters that can bring Lich King down. Two has already been close.

Whom have come close? and the LK has never attacked anyone majorly himself at all, he just seems to appear now and then to take on one character at a time, hes doing more of a kiljaeden tactic, sit behind lines and let your forces do the work yet your own power is stll far greater than your forces.

By WoW system Pantheon member>Lich king>Old god>aspect

Although notable that the titan Archavon or w/e his name is, is rated lower than LK and Deathwing it would seem.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Whom have come close? and the LK has never attacked anyone majorly himself at all, he just seems to appear now and then to take on one character at a time, hes doing more of a kiljaeden tactic, sit behind lines and let your forces do the work yet your own power is stll far greater than your forces.

By WoW system Pantheon member>Lich king>Old god>aspect

Although notable that the titan Archavon or w/e his name is, is rated lower than LK and Deathwing it would seem.

Tirion Fordring and Sylvanas has both been close at killing the Lich King. Sylvanas still has the poison that was used by Putress and could use it again. Tirion Fordring is a Paladin unlike any other and has injured Lich King twice, forced him to retreat once.

Darion Mograine knows various weaknesses in the Scourge and can and would use that to their advantage. Sylvanas has been stated able to FEEL the Lich King, so he'll never ambush a force that has Sylvanas in it.

The Scourge was unable to enter Quel'Thalas at first, and would've failed had it not been for Dar'Khan. And Quel'Thalas was safeguarded by only a band of rangers, Sylvanas being the arrow head.

All-in-all, the Scourge forces are rather pathetic. The Lich King is far from invincible and given his combat showings, would be no match for characters of Aspect level.

According to WoW system:
Lich King = Aspect > Old Gods > Random soldier > Dar'Khan
Don't use WoW to determine level of power.

Behold the mighty scourge. A common magician one-shot a Frostwyrm and Jaina one-shot a Necropolis. In any battle, Undead drop like flies. Raising the dead only gets you so far when you lose more troops than the enemies.

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Tirion Fordring and Sylvanas has both been close at killing the Lich King. Sylvanas still has the poison that was used by Putress and could use it again. Tirion Fordring is a Paladin unlike any other and has injured Lich King twice, forced him to retreat once.

Darion Mograine knows various weaknesses in the Scourge and can and would use that to their advantage. Sylvanas has been stated able to FEEL the Lich King, so he'll never ambush a force that has Sylvanas in it.

The Scourge was unable to enter Quel'Thalas at first, and would've failed had it not been for Dar'Khan. And Quel'Thalas was safeguarded by only a band of rangers, Sylvanas being the arrow head.

All-in-all, the Scourge forces are rather pathetic. The Lich King is far from invincible and given his combat showings, would be no match for characters of Aspect level.

According to WoW system:
Lich King = Aspect > Old Gods > Random soldier > Dar'Khan
Don't use WoW to determine level of power.

Arthas was not the lich King when sylvanas poisoned him....if thats what your talking about?

Scourge forces pathetic? just because they didnt enter a few cities? they swept across the world, are perhaps the largest force currently on Azeroth and speaking of lore and probably far more powerful, every minor grunt in the horse or soldier of the alliance certainly could not stand against a deathless skeleton, especially not if they just rise again through necromancy. The scourge have wyrms and larger entities than the other forces as well....and their own sorcerers, infact their sorcerers are arguably stronger as they are older and have had a longer time to learn their art, so they are already sorceroers only enhanced by the LK immortality gift. Liches as well.

Why? until theres cold hard evidence WoW is the best gauge on their power, until you have a book of Lich King getting defeated by useing his full power simply because someone is stronger than him then we can have a solid gauge. same with most of the other characters. And what claims a random soldier killed Dar'Khan in canon? since I assume he has his own accurate lore canon behind him?

one shot? whos to say that wyrm was destroyed? just looks like it was harmed to me....and Jaina is hardly a basic mage either, shes probably one of the more powerful.

Alright.

Here's a shaman one-shotting a Frostwyrm:

Here's Varian Wrynn one-shotting a Frostwyrm:

It looks like the Dragon is still talking to the Shman or w/e it was who fired at it, not dieing.

And that looks like an unlikely PIS moment for a warrior to somehow slice the head off of a wyrm with his sword...

And what about Galakrond? if LK raises him what chance does anyone stand?

The one that spoke was Kel'Thuzad and not anyone on the field. When Thrall toppled the necropolis, you see a massive shade in the background. That's an illusion forged by Kel'Thuzad.

Galakrond is likely larger than even Dargonax. It would take the strongest mages in the Alliance to bring him down. But it's fact that an undead being is less durable than its living form (Generally)

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
But it's fact that an undead being is less durable than its living form (Generally)

is this fact shown through actual canon comparisons?

It's widely known and brought up at numerous occasions. It also, for what science is worth, makes sense that they are less durable.

Here's an example though, just to ease your pondering some:

In the mid-square of the panel you see a thrown sword chopping an undead in half. This effect would not have been on a human, because there's so much more than just bones to cut through.

Your common garden-variety undead are obviously less durable than living beings.

Which is what the majority of the Lich King forces consist of. Abominations and the likes take time to create, since they are sown together and not raised.

Yes but their still powerful, more powerful than the typical soldier or night and would be damned hard to kill, not to mension they expell poision, most of the undead have toxic gas and disease coming from them, hell a corpse can cause disease....

That is true. Varian confirms that exact ability in one of the later volumes of the comic. They take less beating, but they are more dangerous. That only gets them so far though, against magicians.

Well both sides have magicians, the Scourge side arguably far more powerful based on the fact their ancient, likely wiser, their immortal and liches, I dont think they can die unless you destroy their physlacy or however you spell it.

Not necessarily true. It's correct that undead magicians has certain advantages, such as no stamina to worry about, resistance to mental magic and various undead benefits.
One of the strongest magicians in the world is in fact undead (Although not working for Scourge nor Forsaken)

However, the top magicians of the world are still living.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Well both sides have magicians, the Scourge side arguably far more powerful based on the fact their ancient, likely wiser, their immortal and liches, I dont think they can die unless you destroy their physlacy or however you spell it.

You mean 'phylactery'? You'd think they'd be more powerful too, but they generally aren't.

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Not necessarily true. It's correct that undead magicians has certain advantages, such as no stamina to worry about, resistance to mental magic and various undead benefits.
One of the strongest magicians in the world is in fact undead (Although not working for Scourge nor Forsaken)

However, the top magicians of the world are still living.

Like whom? Kelthuzard is a damn powerful magician, and when you say mages so generally surely a Lich or an older immortla magican would be more powerful than the living one who would have his mortal flesh to hold him back.