Originally posted by amity75
Kicked out of Harvard for cheating
Mary Jo's death
fundraiser for the IRA
pompous liberal
Anti-British
Son of a bootlegger who failed to stand up to HitlerSorry I have no respect for the man.
I don't either. He wasn't a self-made man; he was just Jack and Bobby's brother.
Originally posted by KidRock
Innocent people don't leave the scene of the crime and try to cover it up.
Originally posted by King Kandy
So it was an accident. I don't see the murder part here. At best it was manslaughter. Murder is something different. I don't see how drunk driving is murder.
It was one or the other. There were rumors that she may have been pregnant. We have seen how infidelity could ruin a political career. Now imagine the pressure to succeed that must be on the shoulders of a member of one of those most prominent political families. Could be a motive to do something drastic and stupid.
Either it was intentional or it was him driving drunk. Both of them equally make him a scumbag that deserved to die and rot in hell.
Originally posted by KidRock
It was one or the other. There were rumors that she may have been pregnant. We have seen how infidelity could ruin a political career. Now imagine the pressure to succeed that must be on the shoulders of a member of one of those most prominent political families. Could be a motive to do something drastic and stupid.
Originally posted by KidRock
Either it was intentional or it was him driving drunk. Both of them equally make him a scumbag that deserved to die and rot in hell.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Really? You think intentional murder and drunk driving accidents are equally bad?
YES!
Why is that hard to understand?
Originally posted by King Kandy
I am having a hard time imagining you could honestly believe that there is no difference between the two. And even in that bizzare code of ethics, he still would not be guilty of murder as you initially claimed.
Oh, sure, there are differences. But both are murder. 😐
Second degree.
I wanna say all sorts of names at you...but I resisted out of respect.
And, IMO, drunk driving MURDER should be prosecuted as first degree murder. You drank to the point of inebriation, you killed someone by getting into a car. That would certainly deter drunk driving.
Originally posted by Darth Jello
What about drunk biking? The charge and penalty are the same in CO.
😆
Drunk biking.
On a bicycle or motorcycle?
That's important.
If it's a bicycle, that's a bit steep. I think the penalty for that should be paying for the bumper and window damage the biker causes to the driver, and then getting their video plastered on teh internetz, if they aren't dead from the crash.
Originally posted by King Kandy
I'm sorry, but when the best source you have is to say "there were rumors" it doesn't exactly seem the piercing truth to me.
So nobody has ever killed another person over a rumor they heard? People have never killed another because they thought they could potentially ruin their life and legacy?
Originally posted by King Kandy
Really? You think intentional murder and drunk driving accidents are equally bad?
Absolutely. There is no such thing as a drunk driving "accident".
Originally posted by Darth Jello. So by Kidrock's definition, if I have 11 beers and then accidentally fall over onto a person next to me while I am on my Huffy while it is at a dead stop, then by the letter of the law, I have committed attempted murder.
In colorado, having a blood alcohol level of .08 while riding on a bicycle is public intoxication, reckless endangerment, and DUI. You get your driver's license suspended or revoked and face classes, fines, and possible jail time. The law does not discern by what kind of vehicle you're operating.
You said that all drunk driving deaths are murders, therefore all drunk driving accidents are attempted murders. Colorado treats any vehicular intoxication the same, so if a drunk person falls on another person while on top of a bike, it is attempted murder based solely on the letter of the law and your interpretation of it.
Originally posted by Darth Jello
That is not saying all drunk driving deaths are murders.
Either you're planning to kill someone and you do it or you're impairing yourself and putting yourself in a position where you know you can very easily kill someone and then you do it.
And like I said above both make you equally a terrible scumbag person like Ted Kennedy was.
edit: nevermind the fact that your entire accident comparision is completely illogical.