Wolverine and Sabretooth Vs. Colossus

Originally posted by Juk3n
Well if this is truly the case, why are people even arguing, yourself included, you could have just called SPITE and left it at that, no?

If upgraded Sabes doesn't have the force behind his adamantium slashes to break colossus' skin, well then this is OBVIOUSLY spite. If he DOES have the strength to open a wound, then Team win.

sly

Seriously? I'm arguing because certain posters, are underestimating Colossus. If someone says Colossus loses for this and that reason and it's an underestimation of the character, then of course I will comment.

I don't think he does personally. Fair enough. If they can damage him severely enough then yes they can win. That's "if".

Originally posted by blue_beast
are you dumb? this is class 15 strength we are talking about which is spider-mans level of strength + ADAMANTIUM claws you know adamantium the hardest metal on earth? plus the fact that sabretooth is an expert at fighting and killing and he knows how to deliver a deadly blow that will be much harder then an ordenery hit from a 15 class hitter and he know leathal places, in new excalibur when dark beast fought colossus he delivered a blow with a jump to a leathal spot and colossus was knocked down so that means colossus is effected by leathal spots if you put a lot of force into that

You can't really make anything out, can you? You didn't really understand the argument I made. Your little brain wasn't capable of understanding it, was it? In Mutant Massacre Colossus took several shuriken to his torso. They penetrated his skin, yet he took no actual harm in his metal form? Oh dear god! How can this be! Could it be that it doesn't matter if you cut into his chest, because he is, believe it or not, metal? And could it be that since somebody has already cut Colossus in his metal form, yet was not able injure him in any way, cutting him in his metal form would be pointless?

This is of course much too complicated for you to understand, but the rest of us, we know.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
sly

Seriously? I'm arguing because certain posters, are underestimating Colossus. If someone says Colossus loses for this and that reason and it's an underestimation of the character, then of course I will comment.

I don't think he does personally. Fair enough. If they can damage him severely enough then yes they can win. That's "if".

cool, so..Can they? Can adamantium cut colossus? Has it ever been shown?

Originally posted by Juk3n
cool, so..Can they? Can adamantium cut colossus? Has it ever been shown?

It should be able to cut him, though none of Creed's cuts would be able to go very deep.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
You can't really make anything out, can you? You didn't really understand the argument I made. Your little brain wasn't capable of understanding it, was it? In Mutant Massacre Colossus took several shuriken to his torso. They penetrated his skin, yet he took no actual harm in his metal form? Oh dear god! How can this be! Could it be that it doesn't matter if you cut into his chest, because he is, believe it or not, metal? And could it be that since somebody has already cut Colossus in his metal form, yet was not able injure him in any way, cutting him in his metal form would be pointless?

This is of course much too complicated for you to understand, but the rest of us, we know.

are you retarded? do you really compare a shoriken stuck in you with its tip or something and actually being penetrated? are you that dumb?

Originally posted by blue_beast
are you retarded? do you really compare a shoriken stuck in you with its tip or something and actually being penetrated? are you that dumb?

You've never seen how long Sabretooth's claws actually are? Have you?

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
It should be able to cut him, though none of Creed's cuts would be able to go very deep.

wow you are dumb, creed with his super strength rignt now is more then able to penetrate colossus and continue the cut as maby as he want you doofoos

Originally posted by blue_beast
wow you are dumb, creed with his super strength rignt now is more then able to penetrate colossus and continue the cut as maby as he want you doofoos

facepalm

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
It should be able to cut him, though none of Creed's cuts would be able to go very deep.

ok, so, the depth of the metal on say the neck would be much much smaller than the depth of the metal on say, the torso, it may be the difference between the adamantium duo haveing to pierce 6-7 inches of chest steel, or 1-2 inches of neck steel, ya see what im getting at?

If creed has adamatium he have no problem cutting colossus deep.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
facepalm

prove i am wrong

Originally posted by Juk3n
ok, so, the depth of the metal on say the neck would be much much smaller than the depth of the metal on say, the torso, it may be the difference between the adamantium duo haveing to pierce 6-7 inches of chest steel, or 1-2 inches of neck steel, ya see what im getting at?

It's difficult to say, but logic would indicate that the amount of steel would be equally thick all around his body. Sabretooth would need to really dig his claws in to actually get in beneath Colossus skin though. He can't jump around and shred him to pieces with simple swipes. In order to actually get decent cuts, Sabretooth would have to leave himself vulnerable.

Originally posted by blue_beast
prove i am wrong

I never said that Sabretooth can't cut Colossus. Your little brain just simply can't understand the argument that I'm making. Stop projecting, take a couple of steps back and actually READ. Maybe things will make more sense.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
It's difficult to say, but logic would indicate that the amount of steel would be equally thick all around his body. Sabretooth would need to really dig his claws in to actually get in beneath Colossus skin though. He can't jump around and shred him to pieces with simple swipes. In order to actually get decent cuts, Sabretooth would have to leave himself vulnerable.

I never said that Sabretooth can't cut Colossus. Your little brain just simply can't understand the argument that I'm making.

well then retardo this is where wolverine gets into the picture and fight colossus as well while sabretooth is cutting him

Originally posted by blue_beast
well then retardo this is where wolverine gets into the picture and fight colossus as well while sabretooth is cutting him

Concession accepted.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
It's difficult to say, but logic would indicate that the amount of steel would be equally thick all around his body. Sabretooth would need to really dig his claws in to actually get in beneath Colossus skin though. He can't jump around and shred him to pieces with simple swipes. In order to actually get decent cuts, Sabretooth would have to leave himself vulnerable.

k i see where your coming from, but what i mean is Colossus skin, is in proportion to the skin he's actually got dyou see? other wise we'd have to assume his eyes in metal form where as deep as his chest - which is ridiculous ^^ all humans only have a thin layer of skin around the throat, so - durable it may be - he shoudl have a smaller depth of metal in areas with less skin when he transforms.

to conclude this... sabretooth is able to cut colossus and they kill him

Originally posted by Juk3n
k i see where your coming from, but what i mean is Colossus skin, is in proportion to the skin he's actually got dyou see? other wise we'd have to assume his eyes in metal form where as deep as his chest - which is ridiculous ^^ all humans only have a thin layer of skin around the throat, so - durable it may be - he shoudl have a smaller depth of metal awhen he transforms.

That makes more sense, I stand corrected. Regardless, it would require Sabretooth to pause in order to actually get past the skin.

Originally posted by blue_beast
to conclude this... sabretooth is able to cut colossus and they kill him

How did Riptide do?

when they were the old colossus vs wolverine threads where people always stated that adamantium can cut colossus but wolverine doesnt have enough strength to do it i agreed, but now this is a class 15 monster this is a different story you cant come up with the same excuse here

Originally posted by Juk3n
cool, so..Can they? Can adamantium cut colossus? Has it ever been shown?

Can Adamantium cut him? It should be able to do so.

Can they cut him? I don't think so. The only time Wolverine attempted to cut him, there were sparks and so on.

Adamantium is simply tougher in my opinion and stronger than Colossus' organic steel. However, it matters whether or not Creel and Logan are strong enough to cut him or do anything significant to him.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Can Adamantium cut him? It should be able to do so.

Can they cut him? I don't think so. The only time Wolverine attempted to cut him, there were sparks and so on.

Adamantium is simply tougher in my opinion and stronger than Colossus' organic steel. However, it matters whether or not Creel and Logan are strong enough to cut him or do anything significant to him.

if you think 15 ton strength is not enough to cut colossus with the hardest metal on earth then you are a moron