How Powerful is Vader?

Started by Anakin4Ever2 pages

How Powerful is Vader?

At first I thought Vader was really weak, in both lightsaber dueling and the Force. That was until I understood how powerful he was in the Force, and that he bested many Jedi in lightsaber combat. But I still can't get a good read on how powerful he is. I mean, Luke Skywalker, who only had 4 years of training, kicked his butt! What is the deal?

Vader went easy on him... Luke admits this in a book (forgot which one).

How powerful is Darth Vader?

Way more then Revan! 😄

Re: How powerful is Darth Vader?

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
Way more then Revan! 😄

Are you sure?

joking.

Re: How Powerful is Vader?

Originally posted by Anakin4Ever
At first I thought Vader was really weak, in both lightsaber dueling and the Force. That was until I understood how powerful he was in the Force, and that he bested many Jedi in lightsaber combat. But I still can't get a good read on how powerful he is. I mean, Luke Skywalker, who only had 4 years of training, kicked his butt! What is the deal?
Because vader held back against his son? Luke admits it in a later book.

Seriously start reading more EU books and comics, play TFU and you will see just how powerful he is in the force and i'll tell you that he is way more powerful than alot of jedi and sith.

And the "oh me gosh he is sooooooo sl0w in the movies and weak" argument died years ago and is pathetic, first off who the hell in the movies was a big enough threat for him to go all out on?

You may say that in ROTJ but then again he wasn't going all out, he didn't even use any force powers at all.

Apart from the saber throw which required the Force.

Vader is pretty freakin powerful. He's got a lot of crappy weaknesses, but he's like a bull that can just crush people. Effectively unlimited physical stamina (mech limbs). He still have a butt load of raw Force potential. And he's got a big enough skill set to really cause some damage. I think he probably surpassed his ROTS self, but I don't think by enough to every be much of a threat to like Sidious.

Glentract you say he has unlimited physical stamina, he was being worn out by Luke in ROTJ when he gave into his anger.
He[Luke] rushed to his father with a frenzy he'd never known. Nor had Vader.
Blow upon blow, Luke forced Vader to retreat.
Each stroke of Luke's saber pummeled Vader, like accusations, like screams, like shards of hate.
-Novellisation-Just saying.

Re: Re: How Powerful is Vader?

Originally posted by Wolverine2179

And the "oh me gosh he is sooooooo sl0w in the movies and weak" argument died years ago and is pathetic, first off who the hell in the movies was a big enough threat for him to go all out on?

Obi Wan

Originally posted by mattatom
Glentract you say he has unlimited physical stamina, he was being worn out by Luke in ROTJ when he gave into his anger.
He[Luke] rushed to his father with a frenzy he'd never known. Nor had Vader.
Blow upon blow, Luke forced Vader to retreat.
Each stroke of Luke's saber pummeled Vader, like accusations, like screams, like shards of hate.
-Novellisation-Just saying.

how does any of that point to vader being worn out?

The fact he didn't have the strength to standup to Luke's blows anymore?

UNLIMITED physical stamina? That's an exaggeration, right? No one has "unlimited" stamina.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
UNLIMITED physical stamina? That's an exaggeration, right? No one has "unlimited" stamina.
This guy does. Apparently he can also walk on Jesus.

Originally posted by mattatom
The fact he didn't have the strength to standup to Luke's blows anymore?

where does it say that in the passage you provided? maybe my eyes are just glossing over it.

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
where does it say that in the passage you provided? maybe my eyes are just glossing over it.
Well I don't think it says that. I think it's implied , afterall, if two forces meet and A is stronger than B, B is pushed back. Vader is B. In this situation.

it seemed to me that avder just couldnt keep up with him. Luke was getting more ferocious and unpredictable. i dont think its implying that he was getting weaker.

but then again. the movie clearly shows him getting worn out so i guess it doesnt really matter. 🙁

Re: Re: Re: How Powerful is Vader?

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Obi Wan
Yeah and what threat did he pose genius?

He became more powerful than you can possibly imagine. That's what he did.

Kenobi could trick people with sneaky sounds.

THAT made him a very real threat, and don't you forget it!@!!!!@!@