Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What's with all these Hal stomps John statements?I thought that a battle between these two would be a battle of wills and so on? Clearly John doesn't have near as many feats as Hal, but from what he has shown, he should be able to hold his own.
he would hold his own, no doubt, but hal should get the majority based on feats, yes?
Originally posted by -Pr-
he would hold his own, no doubt, but hal should get the majority based on feats, yes?
Yea, Hal Jordan does have the most feats easily, but Hal has been portrayed the most as well.
I think John can stalemate him to an extent and I can see Hal Jordan winning the slim majority. 6-7/10.
I don't however thinks he stomps, or destroys any of the pro Green Lanterns like Kyle, Sinestro, Kilowog, Gardner etc.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yea, Hal Jordan does have the most feats easily, but Hal has been portrayed the most as well.I think John can stalemate him to an extent and I can see Hal Jordan winning the slim majority. 6-7/10.
I don't however thinks he stomps, or destroys any of the pro Green Lanterns like Kyle, Sinestro, Kilowog, Gardner etc.
i'd give hal a solid 7 over john or guy. against wog or kyle, it comes down to 6.
against sinestro? could go either way, imo.
Meh, against Guy or John I'd give him 6 out of 10, or a 7 at the best. I think they can match him in will power. It's that they're showings cannot compare to his. Too many for Hal.
Kilowog, with his combined physical prowess, and Green Lantern Ring, would do quite well. Maybe a stalemate? If Hal plays it smart, and Kilowog, just resorts to brute force (Which he doesn't usually.), I'd give it to Hal, with 6 out of 10.
I'd say Kyle takes the win over him.
Agreed. Sinestro could go either way.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Meh, against Guy or John I'd give him 6 out of 10, or a 7 at the best. I think they can match him in will power. It's that they're showings cannot compare to his. Too many for Hal.Kilowog, with his combined physical prowess, and Green Lantern Ring, would do quite well. Maybe a stalemate? If Hal plays it smart, and Kilowog, just resorts to brute force (Which he doesn't usually.), I'd give it to Hal, with 6 out of 10.
I'd say Kyle takes the win over him.
Agreed. Sinestro could go either way.
i disagree on the matching willpower thing, but that's just me. for me, hal's always been top dog when it comes to pure, flat out willpower.
wog could stalemate hal, but they did fight before (albeit unfairly), and hal took him down. i can see him doing it again. as far as the physical part goes, hal held his own not so long ago (which is just odd, tbh).
you think kyle is > hal? cos of his creativity?
Originally posted by -Pr-
i disagree on the matching willpower thing, but that's just me. for me, hal's always been top dog when it comes to pure, flat out willpower.wog could stalemate hal, but they did fight before (albeit unfairly), and hal took him down. i can see him doing it again. as far as the physical part goes, hal held his own not so long ago (which is just odd, tbh).
you think kyle is > hal? cos of his creativity?
I always some them as being able to match him, to at least an extent.
Yea that was. I recall Kilowog stalemating Superman.
His creativity does factor in. I haven't seen Kyle apply it as he use to, in a while. The latest one moment I can think off is when he fought Kryb. That's the Kyle I remember.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I always some them as being able to match him, to at least an extent.Yea that was. I recall Kilowog stalemating Superman.
His creativity does factor in. I haven't seen Kyle apply it as he use to, in a while. The latest one moment I can think off is when he fought Kryb. That's the Kyle I remember.
to an extent, sure, but i just see hal as having reserves the others don't.
wog had the ring, though, or am i thinking of a different instance?
so you think his creativity + willpower is enough to overcome hal?
Originally posted by -Pr-
to an extent, sure, but i just see hal as having reserves the others don't.wog had the ring, though, or am i thinking of a different instance?
so you think his creativity + willpower is enough to overcome hal?
If you think so. Didn't John also overload the ring's capabilities with his willpower? Apparently he reached the limits of a Green Lantern Ring or something along those lines. Doesn't get more willful than that in the Green Lantern Corps.
Maybe. I even remember him hurting/affecting Superman with a blow.
Yes. I also believe he has the greatest feats Post-Crisis. Like I said, here, the number of showings, shouldn't be taken the be all, end all, but I give Hal the win, over the other two because of his superior showings in part. Only fair I take it into account with Kyle.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
If you think so. Didn't John also overload the ring's capabilities with his willpower? Apparently he reached the limits of a Green Lantern Ring or something along those lines. Doesn't get more willful than that in the Green Lantern Corps.Maybe. I even remember him hurting/affecting Superman with a blow.
Yes. I also believe he has the greatest feats Post-Crisis. Like I said, here, the number of showings, shouldn't be taken the be all, end all, but I give Hal the win, over the other two because of his superior showings in part. Only fair I take it into account with Kyle.
true, though i don't think that necessarily makes him = hal.
mmm that was the superman batman issue where wog attacked clark, right?
ah. fair enough, i guess. question, though. kyle v sinestro. who would you go for?
Originally posted by -Pr-
true, though i don't think that necessarily makes him = hal.mmm that was the superman batman issue where wog attacked clark, right?
ah. fair enough, i guess. question, though. kyle v sinestro. who would you go for?
Well, at the very least, it should make him close enough that people claiming he gets stomped or destroyed as if he is an entire level below Hal baseless. I mean, this is a fight between two characters wielding a Green Lantern Ring and John will power reached the limits and overloaded a Green Lantern Ring. Can you get any higher than that?
I believe so.
Hmm, who would win between the two? Have their ever meet in a one on one fight? Just checking as I don't believe they have.
Honestly, Kyle's creativity, makes him, one of the most dangerous of the lanterns. I'd say he has more of a chance beating Sinestro, than almost anyone. I can see an argument for him beating him being made. Personally, if I had to choose, based on all of his feats? He definitely could.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Well, at the very least, it should make him close enough that people claiming he gets stomped or destroyed as if he is an entire level below Hal baseless. I mean, this is a fight between two characters wielding a Green Lantern Ring and John will power reached the limits and overloaded a Green Lantern Ring. Can you get any higher than that?I believe so.
Hmm, who would win between the two? Have their ever meet in a one on one fight? Just checking as I don't believe they have.
Honestly, Kyle's creativity, makes him, one of the most dangerous of the lanterns. I'd say he has more of a chance beating Sinestro, than almost anyone. I can see an argument for him beating him being made. Personally, if I had to choose, based on all of his feats? He definitely could.
yes. it's called being Hal Jordan. 😛
Kal Vs Wog one on one? I'd go with Kal.
i definitely don't agree. for me Hal and Sinestro will always be ever so slightly above Kyle. While Hal, for instance, lacks the imagination Kyle does, his constructs are simple and practical. that is just as dangerous as kyle's creativity (unless we're talking stuff like creating kryptonite and the like).
though i'd still say hal's willpower > kyle's
Originally posted by -Pr-
yes. it's called being Hal Jordan. 😛Kal Vs Wog one on one? I'd go with Kal.
i definitely don't agree. for me Hal and Sinestro will always be ever so slightly above Kyle. While Hal, for instance, lacks the imagination Kyle does, his constructs are simple and practical. that is just as dangerous as kyle's creativity (unless we're talking stuff like creating kryptonite and the like).
though i'd still say hal's willpower > kyle's
Fanboy. uhuh
Still, how can a Green Lantern get any higher than overloading a Green Lantern ring with your will power?
Yea, I give it to Superman too.
I disagree. I believe Kyle is above with the right motivation can beat them. It's not as if he lacks the feats to back the claim. His creativity is more dangerous in my opinion. The most dangerous, out of the Earth Green Lanterns in my opinion.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Fanboy. uhuhStill, how can a Green Lantern get any higher than overloading a Green Lantern ring with your will power?
Yea, I give it to Superman too.
I disagree. I believe Kyle is above with the right motivation can beat them. It's not as if he lacks the feats to back the claim. His creativity is more dangerous in my opinion. The most dangerous, out of the Earth Green Lanterns in my opinion.
john went down against parallax. hal didn't. that to me is one of the prime examples of why hal is a cut above.
in terms of creativity? sure. i just don't think that's enough to get him the win, tbh...
