The Juggernaut...show some respect! (Redux)

Started by DrDoomsday-36039 pages

juggernaut has beaten him 2 times thor had trouble finding different ways to hurt him but fail to do so that was the reason why he needed to BFR juggy plus classic thor was weak compare to the current thor pretty much makes no differents what thor did on his facts that won't stop him from geting a beaten like everybody else 😉

Originally posted by DrDoomsday-360
juggernaut has beaten him 2 times thor had trouble finding different ways to hurt him but fail to do so that was the reason why he needed to BFR juggy plus classic thor was weak compare to the current thor pretty much makes no differents what thor did on his facts that won't stop him from geting a beaten like everybody else 😉

1. Thor wasn't trying to kill Juggernaut reread the fight he used all his weak tatics to stop him but not kill him and they weren't enough so the only way to stop him with out killing him was bfring him. So thor won.

2.In the dimension Thor nearly killed Juggernaut for 60 seconds he beat the shyt out of him while his armor was down and before the final blow was struck the shield came back up. Even Juggernaut admits he was about to die in that little bit of time an he was lucky his shield came back up. So this time Thor not only pwned Juggernaut but made him his b!tch.

3. Juggernaut was getting and extra power up from cyttorak. Thor had just got done fight three brothers and saving the city one of which was and omnipotent being. Juggernaut comes out of no where and attacks and already weakened Thor and just barely wins. Juggernaut wins this fight due to Thor being incredibly weak from just fighting saving the city and Juggernaut nearly becoming Trion Juggernaut.

So yeah Classic Thor is way more powerful and stronger than current Thor do you seriously? Currently Thor has done barely anything if nothing amazing. Classic Thor has pulled earth, thrown pyraminds, smashed through ships of adamantium, taking on beings capable of destroying the universe. Seriously don't get those two mixed up. Juggernaut is a powerful and strong character I have no idea why Marvel admits Superman can beat him with just strrength but Juggernaut is no match for a guy who can throw blast enough to destroy celestial armor or a thermo blast when Thors really trying. If Juggernaut were not human and was like Ego or the celestials, or Mephisto Thor would not hold back as much. If he went around killing back in the day like he did when he had his son Magni in the ultimate universe he wouldn't be worthy to hold his hammer.

((just leting you know your pointless comments is on Ignore right? i didin read your comments in this one really i know your going to make more excuses for your love for thor this is all about jugg respect forum ain't this about talking and showing good fects about juggernaut? and yet here you come ruin everything by compare thor to other people you do that in every respect forums we know how powerful thor is and yet he lost to superman let alone by other people classic thor was weak compare to his current version if you want to defend your favorite thunder god so much just go do that in thor respect forum not here good day to you sir 😛 ))

^I like that Cytorrak is so mysterious that he has no real form.

The two most popular are of course the demonic juggernaut and crimson king looking versions, but I'm glad they've added more. In those scans Cyttorak looks ambiguous, just a note of red eyes but no real distinct shape. And in another thunderbolts issue a little while back, Cyttorak was shown looking like a more demonic version of Dormammu.

It's official. dont click if you dont want to be spoiled

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Originally posted by -K-M-
It's official. dont click if you dont want to be spoiled

http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/8166/c100col.png

Wow. I am actually interested in this. At the same time though, I hope it doesn't stick. But I can't wait to see what they'll do with him, hopefully he won't just sit on the side lines and not get the full power.

Also, on a side note, Juggernaut never ran with that version of the Brotherhood shown in the above FI mini.

Ladies and Gentlemen, Cain Marko, The Unstoppable Juggernaut has returned!!!

Dark Avengers #182

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Cain Marko(Not Juggernaut) comes back after being freed from prison, only to inform the Avengers that no wall is unbreakable, and he'd know better than anyone. But since he's not Juggernaut, he's no help. Then the team that went into the future return and open a portal to an alternate dimension where Cain Marko is dead, so Cytorrak has no vessel to bestow his power upon. He sticks his hand in, and boom, power restored.

He then proceeds to smash(easily) through a wall no one was supposed to be able to get through, take out an alt-u(or fake, not sure) Thor with a punch, and beats him down with Hyde. Nice comeback I say, but it could have used more him beating the crap out of somebody.

I am a bit confused though, since it was an alternate Cytorrak that blessed him; will his powers be back at full strength? What they were before? And since Magik took away Colossus' powers, what will 616 Cytorrak do?

Originally posted by KingD19
take out an alt-u(or fake, not sure) Thor with a punch

Ragnarok?

Okay, you're right. I haven't been following Dark Avengers since Mach V killed his past self. Well it's not as impressive if it was Ragnarok, but still a nice feat.

It was Ragnarok. And he didn't take him out with that -sucker- punch. How did you even come to that conclusion? Clor was up almost immediately and then he was jumped by Juggernaut and Hyde after Troll used her Asgardian weapon to destroy his fake Mjolnir.

It's all in the scans you posted.

Relax. I meant to edit but missed the 15 minute mark.

And even if it was a sucker punch, the result would have been the same if he'd punched him head on.

Even without Hyde Ragnarok would have gotten mudstomped. I'm just happy to see Cain back in his big crimson boots.

Colossus sucked major balls as Juggernaut let's hope Cain get's some respect by the writers...

Originally posted by KingD19
Ladies and Gentlemen, Cain Marko, The Unstoppable Juggernaut has returned!!!

Dark Avengers #182

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa224/kingd17ATL/Comics%20Scans/0009.jpg
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa224/kingd17ATL/Comics%20Scans/00110.jpg
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa224/kingd17ATL/Comics%20Scans/00111.jpg
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa224/kingd17ATL/Comics%20Scans/00112.jpg
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa224/kingd17ATL/Comics%20Scans/00113.jpg
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa224/kingd17ATL/Comics%20Scans/00114.jpg
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa224/kingd17ATL/Comics%20Scans/00117.jpg

Cain Marko(Not Juggernaut) comes back after being freed from prison, only to inform the Avengers that no wall is unbreakable, and he'd know better than anyone. But since he's not Juggernaut, he's no help. Then the team that went into the future return and open a portal to an alternate dimension where Cain Marko is dead, so Cytorrak has no vessel to bestow his power upon. He sticks his hand in, and boom, power restored.

He then proceeds to smash(easily) through a wall no one was supposed to be able to get through, take out an alt-u(or fake, not sure) Thor with a punch, and beats him down with Hyde. Nice comeback I say, but it could have used more him beating the crap out of somebody.

I am a bit confused though, since it was an alternate Cytorrak that blessed him; will his powers be back at full strength? What they were before? And since Magik took away Colossus' powers, what will 616 Cytorrak do?

How come Cain appears to be the same size as he is as the Juggernaut? He was an averaged sized dude before the gem.

Also, I'm glad Cain is back but not sure of the alternate dimension Cyttorak stuff though. But I'll take it as I doubt 616 Cyttorak want's Cain back.

He's been the Juggernaut for so long, he was probably permanently altered.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
How come Cain appears to be the same size as he is as the Juggernaut? He was an averaged sized dude before the gem.

Artistic Interpretation. just like in the 2 part one with Juggs vs Xfactor (I think) with Spider-man,. Juggernaut looked like he was 20 feet tall.

when he beat the hulk unconscious while helping the red skull, he was also huge.

Now that I think about it, the last time Cain (while at full power) was in a different reality than his power source he started to get weaker. I wonder if that'll be the case here. I'm doubting it since much of his past has seemed to be forgotten/over written/changed.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
How come Cain appears to be the same size as he is as the Juggernaut? He was an averaged sized dude before the gem.
It's been shown his body has absorbed so much of the magical energy that even after he loses the power he still maintains a small bit of it which gives him superstrength and durability just not to same degree.

It was stated in one of his Excalibur issues when he was on that team.

Also digging the new look.

The new look reminds me a bit of the Ultimate Alliance 2 Juggernaut.

I hope he renews his deal with the 616 Cytorrak, else any fight he has from now on will still be suspect. Having to back up like that for 'momentum'? The simple act of walking forward should've been momentum enough for a full powered Juggernaut. Not that they're saying he's full-powered.

The look is pretty nice though!