^ exactly, he's better off without it.
thor doesn't have that "hulk vs thor insta-slugfest" relationship with doomsday, he'd be better off using his plethora of attacks from mjolnir. if he treats doomsday like he does a fight with thanos or the dread destroyer, he might damage doomsday greatly before he can adapt.
one thing i noticed is thor's pride and mindset are probably his only real weakness in combat. it limits his quantity of tactics available to him since he becomes adamant on limiting himself due to pride.
No, not really.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Belt of Strength drains the wearer of his stamina. You think he can take down HP DD if his stamina is diminished?
They drain him to an extent after use. Hell, someone weaker than Thor wears it constantly and he doesn't get drained at all. It's side effects apply after you take it off if they still exist as I recall.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No, not really.They drain him to an extent after use. Hell, someone weaker than Thor wears it constantly and he doesn't get drained at all. It's side effects apply after you take it off if they still exist as I recall.
right on, who has it own know last time i rember seeing the hting it was red norvell i think but i could be wroung.
Originally posted by Blanket
Because he managed to throw around early 90's weaker Superman (although with armor/weapons)?Or because he managed to cheapshot the hell out of Darkseid?
Of comic canon (the story) Superman's average strength never did increase. Today Superman has greater feats of strength but that doesn't mean he received an upgrade. Remember there was never any weight that Superman couldn't lift and thus he always had no known strength limit.
Doomsday > Superman in strength by default. This means whether Superman can lift 100 tons or 1trillion tons, DD is stronger.
But all of that is moot since DD wins this by pouncing on Thor before he could react or simply shooting a claw out his fist through Thor's brain.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33you ever think that maybe it took thousands of years for DD to defeat/kill radiant, because there were thousands of years in between their different battles?
No it's not. It took DD thousands of years to adapt to Radiant.
i mean, how can you logically claim that DD did not evolve immediately after his initial defeat, and subsequent resurrection, at the hands of radiant, when the HUGE majority of his showings say otherwise?
Originally posted by Galan007
you ever think that maybe it took thousands of years for DD to defeat/kill radiant, because there were thousands of years in between their different battles?i mean, how can you logically claim that DD did not evolve immediately after his initial defeat, and subsequent resurrection, at the hands of radiant, when the HUGE majority of his showings say otherwise?
Because it's convenient for his argument.
Duh.
Originally posted by h1a8H1N1's back.......
Of comic canon (the story) Superman's average strength never did increase. Today Superman has greater feats of strength but that doesn't mean he received an upgrade. Remember there was never any weight that Superman couldn't lift and thus he always had no known strength limit.Doomsday > Superman in strength by default. This means whether Superman can lift 100 tons or 1trillion tons, DD is stronger.
But all of that is moot since DD wins this by pouncing on Thor before he could react or simply shooting a claw out his fist through Thor's brain.
Originally posted by King Kandy
If Superman and Waverider can give Doomsday trouble thor should be able to do it at this stage.
Give him trouble? They did no such thing. The only "trouble" they gave him was BFR to the end of time.
Originally posted by Galan007
you ever think that maybe it took thousands of years for DD to defeat/kill radiant, because there were thousands of years in between their different battles?i mean, how can you logically claim that DD did not evolve immediately after his initial defeat, and subsequent resurrection, at the hands of radiant, when the HUGE majority of his showings say otherwise?
Exactly. Not only did Doomsday manage to grab an entity made out of energy, he evolved into "cancelling energy" with his fists, and then when Waverider tries to attack him, Doomsday turns it into a backlash, using WR's powers against him.
So yeah...DD for the win.
Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
Give him trouble? They did no such thing. The only "trouble" they gave him was BFR to the end of time.
Originally posted by King Kandy
They gave him plenty of trouble. They used many effective attacks that forced him to continually evolve to keep up with them. I mean they weren't winning but it wasn't like he was having an easy time putting them down.
Superman was hard pressed to keep his distance and use only ranged attacks, and was still getting owned. And this was a Superman enhanced by mother box. Waverider had only one attempt at an attack and DD made it backlash.