Originally posted by Darth Jello
I think the whole concept is too campy to make a good movie unless they radically retooled the entire concept. Maybe if it was made in a sci-fi mold with the skrulls being the villains and holding off on Doom till later? What if Nicolas Meyer directed?
interesting idea
Well when you've got premises that's difficult to translate to the screen, you really need a good cast and not having that along with horrible direction, writing and set design and cinematography killed the last two movies.
Keep Michael Chiklis but replace everyone else with good actors. I don't like sitting in the theater wanting to shoot the human torch every time he opens his mouth. Cut the special effects budget and use it to hire F. Murray Abraham to play Doom and other good actors. Oh, and definitely don't make the predominant color in the movies blue. I felt like both the movies had this kind of radiating blue glow because of the cinematography and design which when combined with everything else that was bad about made an experience akin to being punched between the eyes in slow motion over the course of an hour and a half.
Originally posted by Darth Jello
Well when you've got premises that's difficult to translate to the screen, you really need a good cast and not having that along with horrible direction, writing and set design and cinematography killed the last two movies.Keep Michael Chiklis but replace everyone else with good actors. I don't like sitting in the theater wanting to shoot the human torch every time he opens his mouth. Cut the special effects budget and use it to hire F. Murray Abraham to play Doom and other good actors. Oh, and definitely don't make the predominant color in the movies blue. I felt like both the movies had this kind of radiating blue glow because of the cinematography and design which when combined with everything else that was bad about made an experience akin to being punched between the eyes in slow motion over the course of an hour and a half.
lmao you do realize that we're talking about a Marvel comic book, right? Marvel isn't exactly known for mature content. considering the actual origins and comic book history. The original Fantastic Four movie did an INCREDIBLE job. You people just expect to much. I mean really. Yeah, i go to see a fantastic four movie for the story..., 😆 😂 😆 If you say that you disliked fantastic four becuase the writing was sub-par you must be a cynic.
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
lmao you do realize that we're talking about a Marvel comic book, right? Marvel isn't exactly known for mature content. considering the actual origins and comic book history. The original Fantastic Four movie did an INCREDIBLE job. You people just expect to much. I mean really. Yeah, i go to see a fantastic four movie for the story..., 😆 😂 😆 If you say that you disliked fantastic four becuase the writing was sub-par you must be a cynic.
I didn't like the first FF movie because it sucked. Period. Horrible cast, horrible changes from the comic, horrible dialogue, horrible everything.
He didn't even talk about the tone, either. He was referring to the color.
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
lmao you do realize that we're talking about a Marvel comic book, right? Marvel isn't exactly known for mature content. considering the actual origins and comic book history. The original Fantastic Four movie did an INCREDIBLE job. You people just expect to much. I mean really. Yeah, i go to see a fantastic four movie for the story..., 😆 😂 😆 If you say that you disliked fantastic four becuase the writing was sub-par you must be a cynic.
I don't mean to sound rude, but that entire statement is bullshit. Saying that fans "expect too much" is simply allowing these companies to produce bad movies. Fans shouldn't have to bow and accept the garbage that comes out because the source material is supposedly inherently campy or immature.
After the critical slamming Batman & Robin got, Schumacher said something along the lines of "It's Batman; people can't expect a mature movie" in an interview. Guess he must be damned embarrassed now that Dark Knight came out and blew people away.
Given the right writer, a mature, well-made Fantastic Four movie--with, ya' know, a good story--can be made, and fans won't have to submit to substandard trash and the attitude that a truly good movie can't be made because of some inherent restrictions of the source material.
The Fantastic Four is a series that is insane right off the bat. With Spider-Man, even in the world he lived in in the comics, they still had to slowly evolve the fiction around him. A few cameos were ok, a few misleading stories here and there(Spider-Man fighting the Terrible Tinkerer), but the elements didn't get nuts until at least the 70s, so slowly making the villains more unbelievable in the movies was a good idea.
The Fantastic Four, though, is a completely different story. We're talking about a comic that thrived on being nutty. The first film made them too much of superheroes and not enough like explorers or adventurers. This time around you start off with either the Moleman, Terminus, the Skrulls, or Dragon Man.
Then as you set up a mythos, introduce Dr. Doom, the Skrulls, the Inhumans(using the Dragon Man/Maximus story arc), Galactus, Darkoth, Blastaar, and Annihilus.