Blade vs Lizard

Then what are we basing this argument on if we cant borrow from real world physics? Its because they are so fast that these deflection speeds are impressive. Part of the feat is speed, and part of it is skill. Regardless, Blade still wins this. Way too many tools available. He could blind him with a grenade, sever all sorts of limbs, or possibly even drink his blood? Also Spider-Man holds back when fighting the Lizard like 100% of the time because of who he is. Thats the main reason Lizard is such a credible threat to him. If he was a Punisher villain he wouldnt have lasted 5 issues.

spidey once attempted to KO the lizard and did nothing but hurt his knuckles on his face.
spidey has admitted that there's no way he can kill him
in his earliest appearances, spidey expresses that he holds back, but since then he's discovered that curt was actually in control the whole time.......and spidey has lost going all out against him on several occasions.

bottom line, the lizard is superior to spidey.......far more than a "credible threadt", spidey never beats the lizard with his fists, only circumstances that arise in the particular issue

also, blade is not biting through lizard skin, nor is he simply hacking away all his body parts as if he doesn't possess the speed to counteract

Originally posted by redhotrash
In one of his most recent appearances, Lizard got completely owned by a mostly unarmed Black Cat. Blade wrecks him. And yes bullets travel faster than his tail. Standard .45 round travels at like over 1,400 feet per second.

lol, black cat was uberly enhanced by the rock of life......and lizard only lost because he witnessed his son being shot(things like that can make for a hell of a distraction)........still though, lizard's extreme healing factor still enabled him to simply walk away from a vicious slice to the throat(cat basically ripped it out), and then a fall of a building which may have shattered every bone in his body. when i think of showings like this, the one where he was impaled, and the one where he was shotted to pieces......it leaves me wondering, what else is really gonna work for blade besides decapitation?

if lizard's tail is fast enough to hit spidey, who routinely dodging point blank bullets with the greatest of ease.......why would he be unable to tag blade before he cut it off?

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oh, and a 45 bullet travels around 800 fps.......1400 fps is extremely fast, pretty much limited to high velocity rifle rounds......in fact, it's still a little faster than most of those

Originally posted by D-Block
I didn't mean he was on spitfire level it was just a general question 😎

Originally posted by namorsubby
spidey once attempted to KO the lizard and did nothing but hurt his knuckles on his face.
spidey has admitted that there's no way he can kill him
in his earliest appearances, spidey expresses that he holds back, but since then he's discovered that curt was actually in control the whole time.......and spidey has lost going all out against him on several occasions.

bottom line, the lizard is superior to spidey.......far more than a "credible threadt", spidey never beats the lizard with his fists, only circumstances that arise in the particular issue

also, blade is not biting through lizard skin, nor is he simply hacking away all his body parts as if he doesn't possess the speed to counteract

we've shown blade's counteracted vampire spiderman, spitfire(faster than lizard), and Dracula (arguably faster than Lizard) so what makes you think Blade is going to be outmatched in terms of speed?

Originally posted by Trackz
that's once, blade was once depicted as bulletproof, we don't go by that, there are plenty of instances of spiderman and other heroes taking the lizard i would believe.

we've shown blade's counteracted vampire spiderman, spitfire(faster than lizard), and Dracula (arguably faster than Lizard) so what makes you think Blade is going to be outmatched in terms of speed?

he's hurt his hands on his face more than once.......he's only been shown hurting his hands on his face in an actual KO attempt once though......just to add, 10 tons of force is more than blade could ever hope to generate, so he might as well not even use pucnhes or kicks in this fight......they'd be utterly useless.

why? because spidey is already faster than blade........even without his sense........if curt can outmaneuver him or hit him with his tail, then he can do the same to blade most definitely. and he doesn't have class 10 durability

Originally posted by Trackz
that's once, blade was once depicted as bulletproof, we don't go by that, there are plenty of instances of spiderman and other heroes taking the lizard i would believe.

we've shown blade's counteracted vampire spiderman, spitfire(faster than lizard), and Dracula (arguably faster than Lizard) so what makes you think Blade is going to be outmatched in terms of speed?

Originally posted by namorsubby
he's hurt his hands on his face more than once.......he's only been shown hurting his hands on his face in an actual KO attempt once though......just to add, 10 tons of force is more than blade could ever hope to generate, so he might as well not even use pucnhes or kicks in this fight......they'd be utterly useless.

why? because spidey is already faster than blade........even without his sense........if curt can outmaneuver him or hit him with his tail, then he can do the same to blade most definitely. and he doesn't have class 10 durability

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I'm not sure Blade was depicted as bulletproof in that scene. I'm guessing the bullet went in his back. Spidey has already had issues dealing with Jamal Afari's speed and Henry Sage's speed. Those guys are vampires.

Originally posted by Trackz
i dunno, there was no blood or anything, punisher thought he had on kevlar which means he didn't see any blood or anything either.

Spider-Man was hit by his tail the same reason he gets caught by Scorpion's tail, doc Ock's tentacles, or Fancy Frigging Dan's fist: It makes for a more exciting comicbook.

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What is Blade's standard gear?

one hand and a sword wooden stakes and his gun hand full of very soft silver bullets

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
one hand and a sword wooden stakes and his gun hand full of very soft silver bullets

I wanna say Blade but the swamp puts it in Lizards favore.

Originally posted by redhotrash
Spider-Man was hit by his tail the same reason he gets caught by Scorpion's tail, doc Ock's tentacles, or Fancy Frigging Dan's fist: It makes for a more exciting comicbook.

it could not possibly be becuase there all fast enough to hit him

Agreed about Ock's tantacles especuially concidering there are 4 of them but Fancy Dan is fast enough to hit him? 🤨 He's just a dude with some karate training, not even a peak human, it's nothing but PIS.
Its just some times even Rhino is shown to be fast enough to hit him and some times people who are 10 times quicker than Rhino aren't fast enough to hit him. So I concider those Rhino/Dan examples as bad showings..

Originally posted by namorsubby
he's hurt his hands on his face more than once.......he's only been shown hurting his hands on his face in an actual KO attempt once though......just to add, 10 tons of force is more than blade could ever hope to generate, so he might as well not even use pucnhes or kicks in this fight......they'd be utterly useless.

why? because spidey is already faster than blade........even without his sense........if curt can outmaneuver him or hit him with his tail, then he can do the same to blade most definitely. and he doesn't have class 10 durability

Nah man it was kinda a dream, wasn't it?

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
one hand and a sword wooden stakes and his gun hand full of very soft silver bullets