ROTS Sidious vs Dooku, Maul and Vader

1. Sabers
2. Force
3. All out

Setting: Cloud city

Plot: After the Kyp/Han/etc. team that I made earlier failed thanks to bad tactics, Dooku, Maul and Vader got tired of Sidious and decided to attack him. They both start off in cloud city. Sidious isn't aware of the treachery but does sense a disturbance in the force and has his guard up. He is guarded by 10 stormtroopers. The trio have 48 hours beforehand to prepare and have this tracker that shows them where Sidious is at all times. They don't have to engage him conventionally but may beat him in any way possible.

Which Vader?

Bah, it doesn't matter. Sidious is going to be overwhelmed here.

ROTJ Vader

*exasperated face accompanied by dismissing huff*

Sidious is screwed. Royally.

Oh.

I thought that it would at least be close, given that Sidious pwned three very renowned jedi masters in a few seconds.

Those three masters were good, but compared to Maul's mega-stamina/aggression and double blade, Dooku's perfect Makashi, and RotJ Vader's 80% of RoTJ Sidious... curbstomp.

Whoever has the bigger cheeseburger wins

Originally posted by Incanus
Whoever has the bigger cheeseburger wins

Yea no contest really. Despite the fact that they were going after him, Sidious still managed to catch the Jedi masters by surprise.

Sidious will win...

Spoiler:
If he has Darth "Badass" Bandon on his side

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
RotJ Vader's 80% of RoTJ Sidious... curbstomp.

YouTube video

80% shit.

Originally posted by mattatom

These guys?

Sidious just got a saber in his back while I was saying that............. I think he needs help........ He squirming on the ground and screaming like a little girl, he gave me a headache..... Ok, thats annoying *Stabs Sidious repeatedly with his own saber then keeps it and walks away, leaving him in even more pain*

This would be close. If it was ROTS Vader, he'd be screwed in a lightsaber fight, but it if was ROTJ Vader in an all-out 4 way duel, he have a better chance, but it would still be close.

Not really, because whatever lack of saber skills Vader now has, he more than makes up for in the force. And he's 80% of ROTJ Sidious, not RoTS.

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
Not really, because whatever lack of saber skills Vader now has, he more than makes up for in the force. And he's 80% of ROTJ Sidious, not RoTS.

I'm not going to get into another ROTS Anakin vs. ROTJ Vader discussion, but yes, Vader is stronger in the Force than Anakin.

It's funny that Vader is 80% of ROTJ Sidious. What % is Galen? He's higher than Vader, since he beat Vader, right? But he was NO MATCH for the Emperor. If he were 90% or something, then he would hardly be "no match". A 10% isn't THAT big.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
It's funny that Vader is 80% of ROTJ Sidious. What % is Galen? He's higher than Vader, since he beat Vader, right? But he was NO MATCH for the Emperor. If he were 90% or something, then he would hardly be "no match". A 10% isn't THAT big.

for instance, a falsity:
Obiwan killed maul and maul killed qui-gon. Obi wan is more powerful than quigon.

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Originally posted by ~:Mr.Anderson:~
A>b>c doesn't work.

for instance, a falsity:
Obiwan killed maul and maul killed qui-gon. Obi wan is more powerful than quigon.

I

Obi Wan only killed Maul due to CIS; Maul was overconfident.

ABC doesn't work when A>B because A has some sort of advantage over B, but such advantage doesn't extend to C. Get it? For example:

Tank > SAM missile launcher > apache, right?

Does that mean that tank > apache?

No!

Tank > SAM because SAM missiles are designed to take down aircraft, not tanks. The advantage doesn't extend to C, because apaches aren't designed ONLY to attack aircraft. Heck, I don't even think that they're designed to attack aircraft at all. They're designed specifically to destroy tanks and provide close air support. Therefore, in this case ABC fails.

But in other cases, ABC succeeds. 9>8>7, for example.

People who try too hard to sound clever always come off as conceited (and in this case, unjustifiably so).

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Obi Wan only killed Maul due to CIS; Maul was overconfident.

ABC doesn't work when A>B because A has some sort of advantage over B, but such advantage doesn't extend to C. Get it? For example:

Tank > SAM missile launcher > apache, right?

Does that mean that tank > apache?

No!

Tank > SAM because SAM missiles are designed to take down aircraft, not tanks. The advantage doesn't extend to C, because apaches aren't designed ONLY to attack aircraft. Heck, I don't even think that they're designed to attack aircraft at all. They're designed specifically to destroy tanks and provide close air support. Therefore, in this case ABC fails.

But in other cases, ABC succeeds. 9>8>7, for example.

It does not place marek anywhere near close to 90% of sideous.

I must also point out that the quote says that vader was 80% of sideous by the time of rotj, not pre-ot.