I guess I need to re-read Immortal Iron Fist, because I remember Danny losing virtually every fight he got into and running away from a dozen Hydra Agents with automatic weaponry in the last issue because he didn't think he could beat them on his own... apparently I missed what gave everyone else a Iron-boner.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I guess I need to re-read Immortal Iron Fist, because I remember Danny losing virtually every fight he got into and running away from a dozen Hydra Agents with automatic weaponry in the last issue because he didn't think he could beat them on his own... apparently I missed what gave everyone else a Iron-boner.
He didn't really lose much, and the fat cobra instance he wasn't clear if he truly tried or not.
And he didn't run because he couldn't take them, He ran because they activated a bomb that destroyed his building.
if logan can stealth kill demons/sentinels.telepaths/feral/mutated humans... im sure he can sneak up on ironfist.
logan has completely covered his presence from both jean and psylocke and professor x while stalking them.... he has completely covered his scent and other signs of his presence from creed... same with tech equipment from the reavers and the sentinels.....
Originally posted by Battlehammer
which fight?
The first encounter when he attacked him as a Stranger from behind and Iron Fist sensed his attack but before it hit him.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
I am and DD was not the one setting the trap it was Wolverine which is why DD did not die right off the bat, they were luring Elektra out so Gorgon could kill her.Lulz.
Wasn't it Daredevil (He was sleeping at the time by the way.) and/or S.H.I.E.L.D that were setting a trap for Logan by using him as bait, but Hydra/Hand was actually setting up a trap for Elektra because they knew that she would come to Daredevil's aid if they fell for the trap, which was in turn another plan by S.H.I.E.L.D to infiltrate their organization?
Originally posted by Battlehammer
My problem is people using onetime showings as evidences. His entire run he showed new moves, true, but he show them several times and none of them showed him to be thosounds of times more powerful then he was before. That train feat would imply he thousands of times more powerful, which he simply not shown out side that one time feat.
So all the times his shown a level of power or skill that he hasn't shown in the past is not usable according to you? Which there were a number off. His shown ridiculous speed and strength that he has never shown before and hasn't been pushed to show after in the ne
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Yes, but just because he got an upgrade does not mean everything he does from here on out is good writing or even usable evidences. Wolverine received an upgrade to his MA prowesses, but if he did that train feat it be utter BS. Hell it took wolverine healing from a skeleton 3 times before it was usable evidences. One time feats of extreme power does not make that the norm, or make that part of the characters powerset. It common knowledge on the boards that we don’t uses one time evidences on the boards, and just because you an several others like IF does not change this. Like I said people are holding double standards for IF.People need to stop assuming I dislike IF, he one of my favorite characters, but people are on his dick far to hard, and need to stop using train feat as evidences, until he solidifies that type of abilities 2 more times, just like every other character has to do. Also don’t tell me to shut up.
One last time and that's it. I'm done discussing something so simple your having trouble grasping.
We don't know the limit's of his upgrades. His not a green and yellow Batman. He has vast superhuman stats when needed and those has received upgrades to unknown levels. The fact that his constantly doing things that would be far beyond his abilities in the classic days, on different occasions leads me to believe that we don't know the full extent of his upgrades. Hell, neither does he. He wasn't expecting to survive the explosion but he did. We didn't even know the limits of his powers back in the classic days as I recall. Clearly
Fault analogy. Wolverine getting an upgrade in fighting skills, does not mean it would increase his strength, durability, and speed to vast levels.
Well too ****ing bad. It's seems you have trouble grasping something simple and I'm tired of trying to explain it. Keep on whining, or shut up, I really don't care.
Question: Is the assumption that Wolverine can't sneak up on Iron Fist based solely on the fact that he was able to sense Orson's daughter while he was meditating? Because that seems like a huge stretch in logic even if we give Danny the benefit of doubt and assume that his senses are as sensitive during combat as they are during intensive meditation (which to be blunt is EXTREMELY unlikely)... not to mention that it requires us to take at face value the belief that a random throwaway character is somehow in the same spectrum as one of the most - if not the most stealthiest characters in comicdom.
Originally posted by srankmissingninHe beat a dozen Hydra Agents with automatic weaponry in the first issue.
I guess I need to re-read Immortal Iron Fist, because I remember Danny losing virtually every fight he got into and running away from a dozen Hydra Agents with automatic weaponry in the last issue because he didn't think he could beat them on his own... apparently I missed what gave everyone else a Iron-boner.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Hear it, hear the sweat.
Um... yeah... repeating that over and over isn't going to any validity to your opinion.
She was a nobody amateur. He was meditating. Does Wolverine even sweat? Who knows? What we do know is that Wolverine has gotten the drop on Daredevil (while the narration was singing the praise of DD's senses) and that your entire argument is predicated on the fact that one time Iron Fist was able to sense some random chick spying on him. Any other outlandish claims you'd like to make? Might as well get them out in the open now...
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Um... yeah... repeating that over and over isn't going to any validity to your opinion.She was a nobody amateur. He was meditating. Does Wolverine even sweat? Who knows? What we do know is that Wolverine has gotten the drop on Daredevil (while the narration was singing the praise of DD's senses) and that your entire argument is predicated on the fact that one time Iron Fist was able to sense some random chick spying on him. Any other outlandish claims you'd like to make? Might as well get them out in the open now...
He could hear the sweat running down her face. Danny could hear it, with his ears.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
He could hear the sweat running down her face. Danny could hear it, with his ears.
Um... yeah... repeating that over and over isn't going to any validity to your opinion.
She was a nobody amateur. He was meditating. Does Wolverine even sweat? Who knows? What we do know is that Wolverine has gotten the drop on Daredevil (while the narration was singing the praise of DD's senses) and that your entire argument is predicated on the fact that one time Iron Fist was able to sense some random chick spying on him. Any other outlandish claims you'd like to make? Might as well get them out in the open now...
Originally posted by jalek moye
I still say chi sense is valid reasoning, unless logan can mask his chi
Can he even do that? He was only able to track Orson Randall because they both share the chi of Shou-Lao the Undying... and even then Orson is the one who found Danny... again.
Does Wolverine even have a chi signature significant enough to track or register?