Meh... I never said it was impressive, but it sounded like others were implying it was. If they were believing the helmet was more durable than Pete - which I didn't think so - I was merely offering a suggestion as to why WWHulk dented Jugg's helmet but not Pete.
The helmet has never been a big deal IMO. It's more just for psychic protection anyway.
Originally posted by tkitnaColossus wasn't trying to fight Juggy there....his mission was to rip the helmet off that's why he yelled for Rachael to do her part.
Colossus ripped the helmet off, but is that a pimp slap I see in the next panel?
Originally posted by The NuulIt was in a Moon Knight tie-in iirc. And Herc. didn't beat him unless he has the special edition.
They are on the same team, its everyone vs Infinity Watch and Thanos. How and were did Herc fight him? There was also clones in that story. I went through it and didnt see that fight.
Colossus is a f*cking amateur to Hercules. Colossus could train for a thousand years and still be a noob to Herc. F*cking THOR admitted Hercules was a better fighter! Colossus is only in the mortal range of bricks. He's just a mutant. He can't realistically touch guys like Juggernaut, Namor, Captain Marvel, Gladiator, Eddie McDonough, Thor, Superman, Hulk, and Silver Surfer. ALL of these guys are god-level, and any showings where Colossus has hurt them in the slightest, in my opinion, should be stricken from the record as PIBS. If they want to hype him, they can have him beat up Thing! Like what, it's going to hurt Pete's fanbase if he loses to Juggernaut or Thor? I like Colossus as much as anyone, but to say he even contends with an immortal Greek god with countless millennia of experience and planet-busting strength... No... fornicating... way!
Hercules wins 10000000000/10000000000, all f*cking KO's.
Originally posted by Master Court
Colossus is a f*cking amateur to Hercules. Colossus could train for a thousand years and still be a noob to Herc. F*cking THOR admitted Hercules was a better fighter! Colossus is only in the mortal range of bricks. He's just a mutant. He can't realistically touch guys like Juggernaut, Namor, Captain Marvel, Gladiator, Eddie McDonough, Thor, Superman, Hulk, and Silver Surfer. ALL of these guys are god-level, and any showings where Colossus has hurt them in the slightest, in my opinion, should be stricken from the record as PIBS. If they want to hype him, they can have him beat up Thing! Like what, it's going to hurt Pete's fanbase if he loses to Juggernaut or Thor? I like Colossus as much as anyone, but to say he even contends with an immortal Greek god with countless millennia of experience and planet-busting strength... No... fornicating... way!Hercules wins 10000000000/10000000000, all f*cking KO's.
So... being a mutant automatically precludes a character from being a top tier?
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
So... being a mutant automatically precludes a character from being a top tier?
YES! It's unfair to say "Alright, here's a new superhero named Cockman. He goes toe to toe with Gladiator. Oh, his origin? Uhhh, he's a mutant! An omega mutant, baby!"
Thor, Hulk, etc, etc, they're not lowly freaks of nature. Hulk is science abuse, sure, but his powers have yet to be really explained. For all we know, he draws his power from the f*cking speed-force. And Thor is a god. But mutants? Oh, they've "evolved", so they can suddenly make Hercules tap out? The whole premise of the mutant thing is an insult to real superheroes, who are either gods, cosmic, aliens, or have earned their powers by accident.
Let me ask you a question. Simple question. Can you name a mutant, any mutant other than Phoenix(who isn't a mutant of course), that can pull a planet back to together, yank a giant serpent off the Earth, hold the earth on their shoulders, or one-shot a planet? These are the feats of Hulk, Thor, Hercules, and Gladiator. God-level guys. I'm saying, based on the history of mutants and that they have yet to produce such a being, that it's likely there are limits to how powerful any mutant can get. Otherwise, this planet would be in shambles if mutants started coming out with planet-busting powers. First time a kid wets his bed and throws a fit, he levels Ohio. Elementary school kids would have to have PE in China just to make they don't annihilate America in a heated game of dodge-ball.