Vulcan vs Hal Jordan

Started by Juntai11 pages

Originally posted by Warlord
eh, as for Hal punching Kyle Parallax I don't think he is more powerful than Superman since he doesn't get the energies of the battery as Hal Parallax did...just saying

Punching Bats is uber though...😉

Actually, that was Hal, Punching Hal Parallax.

Originally posted by Juntai
Actually, that was Hal, Punching Hal Parallax.

my bad...

Originally posted by Juntai
Actually, that was Hal, Punching Hal Parallax.

I never said Hal can't understand how to throw a punch, I'm saying thats not proof his punch is in anyway kryptonian level. He caught Parallax by surprise from behind. And it didn't even do that much.

Originally posted by DarthZoom
He didn't rock him, he got in one shot from behind by surprise.

Again you have a Hal/Parallax problem. Just use scans without Parallax.

When Mongul hit Hal, that was somone being rocked.

My logic isn't backwards, your the one trying to make GL Hal and Parallax equal in power.

Yes he put arrows into Mongul. Mongul is tough but he's not a Kryptonian.

And I still don't see what he's going to do to Omega Brat.

Once again you're missing the point of the scans and what I'm showing you over and over.

Hal's punch rocks Parallax.
Martian Manhunter and Hawkman[also using a surprise attack btw.] bombarding Parallax[THE SAME GUY] at the same time can't even stagger his footing.
I'm not saying they're equal in power. I'm saying Hal did more damage than they did with a punch to the same character.

You see, you asked when Hal has punched Superman. I showed you the Zero Hour pic. You agreed that Parallax was stronger and it doesn't count for regular Hal.

I showed you Hal GL punching the same character that KOed Superman with one blow.

You questioned Parallax's durability.
I showed you two top flight characters, Hawkman and Martian Manhunter- who alone is in Superman's league, being unable to even stagger his footing with surprise attacks.

Mongul hit Hal, and Hal flew, but he was fine, flew right back, saved Ollie, burned up the Mercy plants and returned and owned Mongul. It wasn't to show Hal spearing Mongul with his ring or the cool tricks he can do with it, it was to show Hal not being messed up by a punch from a Superman level enemy, something you asked for.

You wanted Hal punching someone powerful, you wanted Hal taking a hit from someone powerful, I gave it to you..You questioned Parallax's durability, I gave it to you.

I've given you everything you asked for [INCLUDING AN AWESOME SHOT OF HAL PUNCHING BATMAN FREE OF CHARGE!], and you're acting like it didn't happen.

Originally posted by Juntai
Once again you're missing the point of the scans and what I'm showing you over and over.

Hal's punch rocks Parallax.
Martian Manhunter and Hawkman[also using a surprise attack btw.] bombarding Parallax[THE SAME GUY] at the same time can't even stagger his footing.
I'm not saying they're equal in power. I'm saying Hal did more damage than they did with a punch to the same character.

No he did not, he didn't hurt Parallax, he got in a cheap shot from behind that didn't really do anything.

You see, you asked when Hal has punched Superman. I showed you the Zero Hour pic. You agreed that Parallax was stronger and it doesn't count for regular Hal.

Your point?

I showed you Hal GL punching the same character that KOed Superman with one blow.

Okay? I could punch a professional wrestler, it's not going to do anything. I am sure Hal knows how to physically punch someone.

You questioned Parallax's durability.
I showed you two top flight characters, Hawkman and Martian Manhunter- who alone is in Superman's league, being unable to even stagger his footing with surprise attacks.

And again you need to get off Parallax. He's not GL Hal.

As I said show me scans that have nothing at all to do with Parallax. You obviously can't distinguish between the two.

Mongul hit Hal, and Hal flew, but he was fine

Mongul hit Hal the way Goku hits people. You showed the beggining of the fight and the end of the fight, show the middle.

I've given you everything you asked for [INCLUDING AN AWESOME SHOT OF HAL PUNCHING BATMAN FREE OF CHARGE!], and you're acting like it didn't happen.

No you haven't you've tried to twist Parallax into being GL Hal. Let's take Parallax right out of this debate.

This is normal GL Hal. I want you to show me proof that Hal (not Parallax or anything involving him) can acomplish what BB in a full out scream could not.

Originally posted by Juntai
I've given you everything you asked for [INCLUDING AN AWESOME SHOT OF HAL PUNCHING BATMAN FREE OF CHARGE!], and you're acting like it didn't happen.

How is that awesome? uhuh

Originally posted by DarthZoom
No he did not, he didn't hurt Parallax, he got in a cheap shot from behind that didn't really do anything.

Your point?

Okay? I could punch a professional wrestler, it's not going to do anything. I am sure Hal knows how to physically punch someone.

And again you need to get off Parallax. He's not GL Hal.

As I said show me scans that have nothing at all to do with Parallax. You obviously can't distinguish between the two.

Mongul hit Hal the way Goku hits people. You showed the beggining of the fight and the end of the fight, show the middle.

No you haven't you've tried to twist Parallax into being GL Hal. Let's take Parallax right out of this debate.

This is normal GL Hal. I want you to show me proof that Hal [b](not Parallax or anything involving him) can acomplish what BB in a full out scream could not. [/B]

I'm not trying to twist Hal into being Parallax. I'm not having any problem distinguishing the two. I don't even see where you're getting that out of my posts, besides perhaps the one where I jokingly posted Parallax punching Superman unconscious, only because you asked when he's punched Superman.

I showed you two top flight striking power characters punching Parallax and not even staggering him with surprise attacks[Martian Manhunter alone being a peer of Superman. Hawkman's mace strikes are no joke either].
I showed you Hal doing more damage to the same enemy.
REGULAR GREEN LANTERN HAL DOING MORE DAMAGE THAN HAWKMAN AND MARTIAN MANHUNTER TO THE SAME CHARACTER WITH A PUNCH.

You asked for Green Lantern Hal taking a hit from a Superman level enemy. I showed you Hal taking a punch from Mongul being no worse for wear overall, got up saved, Ollie, burned the Mercy flowers, owned Mongul.

Originally posted by batdude123
How is that awesome? uhuh
It was just a stud moment for Hal.
Takes balls, you know.

Originally posted by Juntai
I'm not trying to twist Hal into being Parallax. I'm not having any problem distinguishing the two.

Yes you really are.

Hal punched Parallax, he did not damage Parallax.

I showed you Hal taking a punch from Mongul being no worse for wear overall, got up saved, Ollie, burned the Mercy flowers, owned Mongul. [/B]

You showed him getting floored by a punch and being knock flying. You then showed the end of a fight. You left out the middle.

Let's try this again, show me (without any use or reference to Parallax whatsoever) that Hal can accomplish what a full scream from Black Bolt could not.

Originally posted by DarthZoom
Yes you really are.

Hal punched Parallax, he did not damage Parallax.

You showed him getting floored by a punch and being knock flying. You then showed the end of a fight. You left out the middle.

Let's try this again, show me ([b]without any use or reference to Parallax whatsoever) that Hal can accomplish what a full scream from Black Bolt could not. [/B]


Why aren't you allowing him to take reference from Parallax?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Why aren't you allowing him to take reference from Parallax?

Because this isn't Parallax in the fight, this is normal GL Hal. he has a problem seperating the two.

Originally posted by DarthZoom
Yes you really are.

Hal punched Parallax, he did not damage Parallax.

No, I'm really not. If a Martian Manhunter and Hawkman assault a guy, and he doesn't fall of his feet, and Hal punches the same guy and he goes flying backwards. Who would you say did more damage overall?
No, Hal didn't KO Parallax, but he did more than the combined assault of Hawkman and Martian Manhunter. After that, Hal went to ring-slinging.

You showed him getting floored by a punch and being knock flying. You then showed the end of a fight. You left out the middle.

Let's try this again, show me (without any use or reference to Parallax whatsoever) that Hal can accomplish what a full scream from Black Bolt could not.

How many times are you going to change what you want me to show you? lol.

You asked when Hal's hit Superman.
I showed you Hal/Parallax punching Superman, because it's the only time I can recall.

You wanted GL Hal punching a Superman level enemy, I gave you GL Hal punching Parallax.

You wanted a scan showing Parallax's durability.
I showed you Martian Manhunter, and Hawkman, having less effect than Hal's punch.

You wanted GL Hal taking a punch from a Superman enemy.
I gave you Mongul punching Hal.

Since you don't like that one.
Here's Hal being surprised attacked and sucker punched in the back of the head by Black Adam during 52, and Hal just turns around and zaps him. and flies off.
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/8561/dc52week60140qf.jpg
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/2410/dc52week60159fb.jpg

Well, Vulcan has been beat physically, but he's taken punches from Colossus and Gladiator, I'm pretty sure he can take a punch from a GL, plus with his force field, he can probably tank anything physical. Indeed, taking a full out NO from Black Bolt with his face only a few inches away, that's uber. And he regenerated from it, more uber.

Originally posted by DarthZoom
Because this isn't Parallax in the fight, this is normal GL Hal. he has a problem seperating the two.
No, there is no problem.
The comparison involves Parallax as the enemy to Hal/GL, and Parallax as the enemy to Martian Manhunter and Hawkman.
Hal GREEN LANTERN doing more damage than they did.
I'm not confusing the two at all. You are.
That's why xJLXKing was asking you. Because he sees exactly what I'm saying. As do most people reading the thread, most likely.

Could Vulcan regenerate from being disintegrated? Like say Iceman?

Originally posted by Juntai
No, I'm really not. If a Martian Manhunter and Hawkman assault a guy, and he doesn't fall of his feet, and Hal punches the same guy and he goes flying backwards. Who would you say did more damage overall?
No, Hal didn't KO Parallax, but he did more than the combined assault of Hawkman and Martian Manhunter. After that, Hal went to ring-slinging.

How many times are you going to change what you want me to show you? lol.

You asked when Hal's hit Superman.
I showed you Hal/Parallax punching Superman, because it's the only time I can recall.

You wanted GL Hal punching a Superman level enemy, I gave you GL Hal punching Parallax.

You wanted a scan showing Parallax's durability.
I showed you Martian Manhunter, and Hawkman, having less effect than Hal's punch.

You wanted GL Hal taking a punch from a Superman enemy.
I gave you Mongul punching Hal.

Since you don't like that one.
Here's Hal being surprised attacked and sucker punched in the back of the head by Black Adam during 52, and Hal just turns around and zaps him. and flies off.
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/8561/dc52week60140qf.jpg
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/2410/dc52week60159fb.jpg


Didn't Hal break Cyborg Superman's jaw?

Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
Double fail.

1. Sound IS a form of energy.
2. BB's scream has nothing to do with sound. When he talks/screams he messes up the electrons that the matter around him is made up of.

If you want to post on a "comic book" forum you should stop getting your information from cartoons from the 90's and start reading comics mate.

Actually it has a lot to do with sound. Sound is the catalyst for the whole event.

Originally posted by Juntai

from Blackbolts Marvel profile.
"As an infant, he demonstrated certain energy-manipulative powers that he couldn't control, particularly that of producing quasi-sonic energy of great destructive potential. To protect the other Inhumans, he was placed inside a sound-proofed chamber"
Originally posted by jrodslam
Could Vulcan regenerate from being disintegrated? Like say Iceman?

Theoretically he could, since he manipulates energy to such a high degree, he could just manipulate certain forms of energy and rebuild himself a body, kind of like how Darwin survived as energy till his body rebuilt itself.

Originally posted by KingD19
Theoretically he could, since he manipulates energy to such a high degree, he could just manipulate certain forms of energy and rebuild himself a body, kind of like how Darwin survived as energy till his body rebuilt itself.

"Theoretically he could" meaning, he should be able to?

So we dont know if he can for sure because it hasnt been shown?

DarthZoom, i don't know where the attitude is coming from, but it has to stop. Be civil.

Originally posted by batdude123
Didn't Hal break Cyborg Superman's jaw?

yup. GL 13.

Originally posted by Juntai
Here's Hal being surprised attacked and sucker punched in the back of the head by Black Adam during 52, and Hal just turns around and zaps him. and flies off.
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/8561/dc52week60140qf.jpg
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/2410/dc52week60159fb.jpg

never saw that before. nice.