90's Marvel comics...

Started by Darth Jello2 pages

please stay on topic. As for having a rough start. That doesn't quite explain why Chichester started strong on Daredevil and then just turned to suck. Same with other writers of the period like Fabien Niceiza or however you spell it.

I quite like the 90's comics alot of my comics are from that era and some before then have'nt really come across anything bad myself from that era.

Really? between 1991-1998 you didn't find anything objectionable?

Originally posted by Kazenji
I quite like the 90's comics alot of my comics are from that era and some before then have'nt really come across anything bad myself from that era.

Punisher may have had the worst decade of his life in the 90's - creatively speaking. Weapons from heaven? 🙄

Originally posted by roughrider
Punisher may have had the worst decade of his life in the 90's - creatively speaking. Weapons from heaven? 🙄

Countdown and the first issue of the edge punisher series and I think a few issues before were awesome though. I love any pairing of the Punisher and Bullseye just cause he seems to frustrate Frank and drive him crazier than anyone else I can think of other than Daredevil.

One of the best things Marvel did to start the 90's was to bring back Thanos.
What else went on that was positive -

Peter David kept an amazing run on Hulk going until 1998.
Jim Starlin & George Perez returned to freelance for Marvel.
Jim Lee became a superstar artist.
Andy & Adam Kubert defected from DC and became Marvel stalwarts for many years.

I always thought Jim Lee was overrated and waaaay too colorful. But to reiterate, despite my criticism, I thought the following stories were really good (or I remember them being good). I never read Age of Apocalypse so I'm not going to comment on that.-

Daredevil: Mephisto, Man Without Mercy, Last Rites/Fall of the Kingpin.
Captain America/Avengers: Streets of Poison, Galactic Storm, the Diamondback/Crossbones angle.
Marvel Comics Presents...: Weapon X, any stories featuring Typhoid, a Crossbones one-shot where he escapes from prison.
Punisher: Countdown
Black Widow: The Coldest War
Black Widow and Daredevil: Abottior
Typhoid limited series
X-books: X-Tinction Agenda and Fatal Attractions.

There is also one moment that I think visually represents the end of the 90's excess for Marvel Comics. It's in Gambit #17 (I think) and it's last panel. The entire comic is a recap of his craptastic overblown adventures and it ends jarringly with him being impaled by Bullseye. To paraphrase from a Sensational Spider-Man issue from the time period- "Did you know that there's some mutant freak stealing my schtick? What was his name? Gamble or Gumbo or something...Unlike him, I throw more than cards!!!"

Originally posted by Darth Jello
please stay on topic. As for having a rough start. That doesn't quite explain why Chichester started strong on Daredevil and then just turned to suck. Same with other writers of the period like Fabien Niceiza or however you spell it.

When exactly did Nicieza suck?

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
When exactly did Nicieza suck?

-AC

He didn't. I thought he was an entertaining writer. He & Scott Lobdell had the unenviable task of following up Chris Claremont's work on X-Men.

I didn't even like Claremont.

His later years anyway.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I didn't even like Claremont.

His later years anyway.

-AC

No, by the beginning of the 90's he was due to leave X-Men. He used to think they should cancel the book when he leaves; they survived without him.

I think the artistic highpoint for Marvel in the 90's was MARVELS.

But Alex Ross would go on to top even that with KINGDOM COME.

Considering Marvel has (I believe) Adi Granov, the best comic book artist of all time, I don't think that's fair to say.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Considering Marvel has (I believe) Adi Granov, the best comic book artist of all time, I don't think that's fair to say.

-AC

I was referring to Marvel in the 90's only. Granov wasn't around then.

Alex Ross vs. Adi Granov? That's fairly close, for full-colour painters...

Originally posted by roughrider
Punisher may have had the worst decade of his life in the 90's - creatively speaking. Weapons from heaven? 🙄

Can't say much on that since i have'nt read it.