Rhino and gauntlet...

Originally posted by KillAll
rhino gains captain americas agility fighting ability and knowledge of fighting and military tactics. plus he gets the sheild. he does not get any kind of jobber aura. he also gets slightly enhanced reflexes (2 x captain americas normal abilities) he fully recovers after each battle.

EDIT for some reason links doesn't working anymore...

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Doom wouldn't need prep. Even if the built-in weaponry in his armor wouldn't be enough, he has some very strong magic at his disposal.

i personally believe he wil need prep. if anything was spontaneous i dont think he could produce a spell off hand to slow the rhino down. or stop him before he makes contact and ko's doom.

with the prep i believe above scenario also. but it will just take longer. the sheild being the only reason. it can pretty much block anything doom can do.

Doom would rape this Rhino even without prep.

You do realize that this:

Originally posted by KillAll
he also gets slightly enhanced reflexes (2 x captain americas normal abilities)

...is likely a downgrade for Rhino, yes? Or at least not a big improvement. No one would ever argue that Cap's skill is less, and that aspect of it is indeed a huge upgrade for Rhino. But in terms of pure reflexive speed, anyone with class 80+ strength is going to be able to operate at superhuman speeds.

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Even with these upgrades in skill and addition of shield, I'm not sure he's got the necessary tools to bypass Colossus. And more specifically, Colossus' durability.

At least, a non-jobbing Colossus.

I dunno. I guess the shield could be an advantage in Rhino's hands. Hm.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Doom wouldn't need prep. Even if the built-in weaponry in his armor wouldn't be enough, he has some very strong magic at his disposal.

True. True. True.

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Originally posted by Master Court
1)Spiderman - Rhino curbstomps in one panel

2)Venom - Rhino wins

3)Wolverine - Rhino stomps

4)thing - Rhino stomps

5)Sebastian Shaw - Rhino wins

6)colossus - Rhino stomps

7)Professor Hulk - Rhino wins

7.5)Savage Hulk - Rhino gets curbstomped

8)dr doom - Rhino stomps

9)non jobbing Apocalypse - Rhino gets stomped

10)Thor - Rhino gets curbstomped

11)Juggernaut - Rhino gets curbstomped

I tend to agree mostly with you. Except that I believe Rhino curbstomps Hulk. Regular Cap can hang with the Hulk for a while and can get some hurting hits on him (with the shield). This fight is Cap with 80ton strength and double the reflexes and agility of Cap. I say he rams that shield deep in Hulk's skull.

If Thor fight's stupidly (which is about half the time) then he loses guaranteed . That shield is going ko the hell out of him. Now if Thor fight's with CIS off then he easily wins. But since CIS is on then it's 5/10 either way.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Even with these upgrades in skill and addition of shield, I'm not sure he's got the necessary tools to bypass Colossus. And more specifically, Colossus' durability.

At least, a non-jobbing Colossus.

I dunno. I guess the shield could be an advantage in Rhino's hands. Hm.

A ram from an 80ton level being with an indestructible shield whose edges are somewhat sharp should put a serious hurting on Colossus.
It will leave a huge dent in him at least.

usually rhino is suck a loser i wouldnt normally think he would pass number 1 but with this fight he can get to apocalyse i think

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Originally posted by Master Court
Oh, well, if Doom uses the prep he probably stomps.

If not, Rhino stomps. Military strategy, double reflexes, fighting ability, agility, indestructible shield that when thrown with even Cap's strength can cut through vehicles. That just seems like a handful to have come crashing in to your pad. Especially if he gets Doom while he's on the toilet.

The man who killed a Watcher needs prep against this version of Rhino?

Originally posted by KillAll
i personally believe he wil need prep. if anything was spontaneous i dont think he could produce a spell off hand to slow the rhino down. or stop him before he makes contact and ko's doom.

with the prep i believe above scenario also. but it will just take longer. the sheild being the only reason. it can pretty much block anything doom can do.

Doom has taken more than 80 tons before and he doesn't need prep to win.

The addition of prep as a sub-scenario implies the first scenario is a spontaneous battle. Given that Captain America has given Doom lots of grief before, I would say Rhino - who already runs at a hundred miles per hour, can juggle tanks, and has brick durability - with the addition of Cap's military strategy, agility, fighting ability, and an indestructible shield capable of ripping through fighter jets when thrown by a guy with normal human strength... yeah... I'd say he'd be a problem. Big f*cking problem.

However, I've already agreed with the other dude that Doom's magic takes the win.

Originally posted by Master Court
The addition of prep as a sub-scenario implies the first scenario is a spontaneous battle. Given that Captain America has given Doom lots of grief before, I would say Rhino - who already runs at a hundred miles per hour, can juggle tanks, and has brick durability - with the addition of Cap's military strategy, agility, fighting ability, and an indestructible shield capable of ripping through fighter jets when thrown by a guy with normal human strength... yeah... I'd say he'd be a problem. Big f*cking problem.

However, I've already agreed with the other dude that Doom's magic takes the win.

the fact that Doom can fly and has an uprgrade himself defeats any way Captain Rhino could win. On KMC, Steve nor Rhino is a threat to Doom even without magic.

I still say Prof. Hulk stops him.

if cap'n rhino plays it smart i'd figure he'd get past a savage hulk if he went in feirce and tried to win right off the bat...