If Captain Marvel is an 100..

Originally posted by Priest
yea but then again there is this,
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/Defenders10-09.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/Defenders10-10.jpg

Hey I said potentially. I'm the last person you need to convince that Hulk has never been able to overpower Thor no matter the incarnation or length of their fight. There's also this:

Hmm..

Superman - 125, PF 125
Silver Surfer (can amp) - ?, PF 85
Wonder Woman - 90, PF 100
Sentry - 1, PF 3
Orion - 110, PF 115
Martian Manhunter - 90, PF 100
Beta Ray Bill - 90, PF 90
Mongul (without rings) - 85, PF 90
Shaggy Man - 110, PF ?
Thor - 100, PF 90
Hulk - 105, PF 90
Gladiator -100, PF 95

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Superman - 145
Silver Surfer (can amp) - 175
Wonder Woman - 95
Sentry - 95 (void ability included)
Orion - 110
Martian Manhunter - 115
Beta Ray Bill - 115
Mongul (without rings) - 75
Shaggy Man - 135
Thor - 150
Hulk - 110
Gladiator - 145

Hard to gauge the versatility vs a person really amazing single attribute. So I tried my best to be fair. This is by no means a ranking of who can beat who though... just a numeric grade for the culmination of all their abilities.

Damn I thought it was all powers.... Not just physical attribute...damn I have to read more carefully.

Physically...
Superman - 115
Silver Surfer (can amp) - 150 (mainly due to duraibility/speed and ampage which idk has a limit)
Wonder Woman - 85
Sentry - 85 (void ability included)
Orion - 95
Martian Manhunter - 95
Beta Ray Bill - 95
Mongul (without rings) - 75
Shaggy Man - 110
Thor - 110
Hulk - 80 (at base... could go as high as 120 WWH version)
Gladiator - 115

This is overall physicallity - speed, strenght, durability

Superman - 108
Silver Surfer - 100
Wonder Woman - 95
Sentry - 95
Orion - 107
Martian Manhunter - 108 (shape shifting and mass gaining, although I think Billy is faster)
Beta Ray Bill - 95
Mongul (without rings) - 95
Shaggy Man - 105
Thor - 95
Hulk - 95
Gladiator - 100

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This is difficult, as none of these character's have say a set limit, and so on.

Strength:

Superman - 100 (In general.)/ 105 (Not holding back. He does have superior feats as well, which doesn't necessarily count for much as they are shown to be equals, but I think that deserves taking into account.)
Silver Surfer (can amp) - 100 (Higher if we use his ability to amp/absorb energy at the highest level we've seen.)
Wonder Woman - 95
Sentry - 97 (On a good day. Less or even higher depending on emotional state.)
Orion - 100 (In general.)/105 (Not holding back and in berserker state.)
Martian Manhunter - 97
Beta Ray Bill - 100
Mongul (without rings) - 85
Shaggy Man - Depends on incarnation.
Thor - 100 (In General.)/106 (When not holding back. Dude has arguably the largest strength reserve out there outside of amping.)
Hulk - At base he is way down the list, but he can amp in strength. Hard to gauge.
Gladiator - 100 (On a confident day. Lower or higher depending on how confident he is. At his peak he has shown some incredible strength)

Most accurate list thus far.

My list was just the double of Bran's, nobody noticed 🙁

Also, rage. You think that Thor holds back like 6% of his strength? I would much rather have Thor at like 70 when holding back and maybe as high as 110 or 120.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
My list was just the double of Bran's, nobody noticed 🙁

Also, rage. You think that Thor holds back like 6% of his strength? I would much rather have Thor at like 70 when holding back and maybe as high as 110 or 120.

Well that depends on the opponent. In general he holds back a lot more than 6% of his strength. A lot more.

It's just we have no scale, and I wasn't using a specific scale. If we were using percentages. The number would have been a lot higher.

I'd agree with Rage and Allans, though mine would be a bit more closer to Allans

Originally posted by kgkg
[B]Strength

Superman- 150
Silver Surfer (can amp) - 90
Wonder Woman - 95
Sentry - 95
Orion - 125
Martian Manhunter - 90
Beta Ray Bill - 95
Mongul (without rings) - 85
Shaggy Man - 125
Thor - 95
Hulk - 125
Gladiator -100 [/B]

Originally posted by Allankles
This is overall physicallity - speed, strenght, durability

Superman - 108
Silver Surfer - 100
Wonder Woman - 95
Sentry - 95
Orion - 107
Martian Manhunter - 108 (shape shifting and mass gaining, although I think Billy is faster)
Beta Ray Bill - 95
Mongul (without rings) - 95
Shaggy Man - 105
Thor - 95
Hulk - 95
Gladiator - 100

either of those works for me.

Originally posted by Sir Faceman
Most accurate list thus far.

maybe he was including warrior madness or thor in paranoid mindset?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
maybe he was including warrior madness or thor in paranoid mindset?

What post are you referring to?

the apparently missing one.

Originally posted by kgkg
[B]Strength

Superman- 150
Silver Surfer (can amp) - 90
Wonder Woman - 95
Sentry - 95
Orion - 125
Martian Manhunter - 90
Beta Ray Bill - 95
Mongul (without rings) - 85
Shaggy Man - 125
Thor - 95
Hulk - 125
Gladiator -100 [/B]

Superman -110
Silver surfer- over 100 with amping
Wonder woman- 90
Sentry -90
Orion -105
Martian Manhunter- 80 with no amping
Beta ray Bill- 90
Mongul- 90
Shaggy Man -over 100
Thor- 95
Hulk- 80 in a calm state
Gladiator-100

Only way supes hits 150 is a anger spike or a sundip. In the case of a sun dip it will jump higher then 150 depending on how long it is. Rateing supes at 150 with out a amp is a joke. He aint 50% stronger then billy lol.

Originally posted by zeel

Rateing supes at 150 with out a amp is a joke. He aint 50% stronger then billy lol. [/B]

Exactly!

I pretty much agree with your placement of characters relative to each other. I just don't think Billy is stronger than Thor, BRB & co. But nice list nonetheless.

Strength

Superman-110
Silver surfer- 95
Wonderwoman-97
Sentry-97
Orion-105
Martian manhunter-95
Beta ray bill-95
Mongul- 90
Shaggy Man-100
Thor-105
Hulk-110
Gladiator-105

Physicality

Superman-110
Silver surfer-105
Wonderwoman-95
Sentry-100
Orion-105
Martian Manhunter-97
Beta ray Bill-97
Mongul-90
Shaggy Man-105
Thor-100
Hulk-105
Gladiator-105

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This is difficult, as none of these character's have say a set limit, and so on.

Strength:

Superman - 100 (In general.)/ 105 (Not holding back. He does have superior feats as well, which doesn't necessarily count for much as they are shown to be equals, but I think that deserves taking into account.)
Silver Surfer (can amp) - 100 (Higher if we use his ability to amp/absorb energy at the highest level we've seen.)
Wonder Woman - 95
Sentry - 97 (On a good day. Less or even higher depending on emotional state.)
Orion - 100 (In general.)/105 (Not holding back and in berserker state.)
Martian Manhunter - 97
Beta Ray Bill - 100
Mongul (without rings) - 85
Shaggy Man - Depends on incarnation.
Thor - 100 (In General.)/106 (When not holding back. Dude has arguably the largest strength reserve out there outside of amping.)
Hulk - At base he is way down the list, but he can amp in strength. Hard to gauge.
Gladiator - 100 (On a confident day. Lower or higher depending on how confident he is. At his peak he has shown some incredible strength)

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ALso how people rate supes 50% more than CA when they have portrayed to be equals over the years?

Maybe by feats you can infer Supes is stronger but 50% - no way

Originally posted by Naija boy
Strength

Superman-110
Silver surfer- 95
Wonderwoman-97
Sentry-97
Orion-105
Martian manhunter-95
Beta ray bill-95
Mongul- 90
Shaggy Man-100
Thor-105
Hulk-110
Gladiator-105

Physicality

Superman-110
Silver surfer-105
Wonderwoman-95
Sentry-100
Orion-105
Martian Manhunter-97
Beta ray Bill-97
Mongul-90
Shaggy Man-105
Thor-100
Hulk-105
Gladiator-105

I agree with this for the most part. I would just bump up Glads and Thor some and then I'm... 👆