Originally posted by Trackz
deathstroke had prep didnt he? Black Panther took on the fantastic four and had them beat similarly with prep.
The only prep he had was to stop BC's cry.
After that it was all melee and he outright destroyed them.
And BP doesn't have anything as powerful and wide an attack as the cry so it wouldn't make any difference.
The point is that DS owned two extremely good martial artists and I don't see BP on that level against GA and BC.
Plus in that fight DS casually cuts down the incoming arrow volley from GA, Connor Hawke and Speedy at the same time.
I think he takes BP rather easily.
Originally posted by comicfan11deathstroke lost the fight and he prepared for each one of the league
The only prep he had was to stop BC's cry.
After that it was all melee and he outright destroyed them.And BP doesn't have anything as powerful and wide an attack as the cry so it wouldn't make any difference.
The point is that DS owned two extremely good martial artists and I don't see BP on that level against GA and BC.
Plus in that fight DS casually cuts down the incoming arrow volley from GA, Connor Hawke and Speedy at the same time.I think he takes BP rather easily.
deathstrokes weaponry would most likely be useless, an energy dagger would kill deathstroke, and Black Panther has many impressive H2H feats like one-shotting karnak and beating CA in a sparring session
Originally posted by Trackz
deathstroke lost the fight and he prepared for each one of the leaguedeathstrokes weaponry would most likely be useless, an energy dagger would kill deathstroke, and Black Panther has many impressive H2H feats like one-shotting karnak and beating CA in a sparring session
and wrecking sabretooth, albeit not the prime incarnation, but a good feat considering most versions of sabes pwn DS.
Originally posted by Trackz
deathstroke lost the fight and he prepared for each one of the leaguedeathstrokes weaponry would most likely be useless, an energy dagger would kill deathstroke, and Black Panther has many impressive H2H feats like one-shotting karnak and beating CA in a sparring session
And yet I'm not even talking about the Identity Crisis fight (although it's another good showing for him)
Read before posting.
I'm talking about the last fight in the previous GA book.
Anyway this is ridiculous.
DS is fast enough to tag Flash on a constant basis.
Has HF to the point where he can take bullets without problem and has manhandled Donna Troy (who would wreck Sabertooth strengthwise) among others before.
Hell in one of his latest appearances he wrecked an enitre team of Titans yet again (including Donna Troy and Cyborg) while casually dodging an out for blood Batgirl with his back turned.
So yeah DS rather easy.
Unless BP armlocks of course...
Originally posted by comicfan11
And yet I'm not even talking about the Identity Crisis fight (although it's another good showing for him)
Read before posting.
I'm talking about the last fight in the previous GA book.Anyway this is ridiculous.
DS is fast enough to tag Flash on a constant basis.
Has HF to the point where he can take bullets without problem and has manhandled Donna Troy (who would wreck Sabertooth strengthwise) among others before.
Hell in one of his latest appearances he wrecked an enitre team of Titans yet again (including Donna Troy and Cyborg) while casually dodging an out for blood Batgirl with his back turned.So yeah DS rather easy.
Unless BP armlocks of course...
well the fact he tags falsh on a constant bases means he is able to predict flash's moves fairly easy, i mean everyone has tagged a speedster before
Black Panther can heal fairly well too but he doesnt need it seeing as his suit is bullet proof, BP is the smarter, and DS had the help of the titans east in that encounter
Originally posted by Trackz
well the fact he tags falsh on a constant bases means he is able to predict flash's moves fairly easy, i mean everyone has tagged a speedster beforeBlack Panther can heal fairly well too but he doesnt need it seeing as his suit is bullet proof, BP is the smarter, and DS had the help of the titans east in that encounter
This is your argument?
That everyone has tagged a speedster?
Like who?
Has Black Panther?
Because I can name quite a bunch of characters that get wrecked by speedsters and they would in turn wreck BP.
And DS is not able to predict anything. He is not a telepath or a psychic. He just has extremely good reflexes and reaction time (stated on panel). Better than BP at least.
Its part of his powerset.
As for the fight he had no help when Ravager, Nightwing, Jericho and Donna Troy jumped him. The Titans East were fighting the rest of the Titans at that point.
DS was owning 4 characters at once and was asking for more, stating why he "Could keep this up all day"
After that the rest of the Titans got rid of the East Titans and also jumped DS. At that point DS owned them too, casually downing Robin and a gorilla shaped Beast Boy by smashing their heads together.
If you think of it he took on 10-12 characters and beat them.
The fight ended when he run to a collapsing building.
The whole team couldn't catch him.
That's why I think DS is on a whole different level.
Originally posted by comicfan11
This is your argument?
That everyone has tagged a speedster?
Like who?
Has Black Panther?
Because I can name quite a bunch of characters that get wrecked by speedsters and they would in turn wreck BP.And DS is not able to predict anything. He is not a telepath or a psychic. He just has extremely good reflexes and reaction time (stated on panel). Better than BP at least.
Its part of his powerset.As for the fight he had no help when Ravager, Nightwing, Jericho and Donna Troy jumped him. The Titans East were fighting the rest of the Titans at that point.
DS was owning 4 characters at once and was asking for more, stating why he "Could keep this up all day"After that the rest of the Titans got rid of the East Titans and also jumped DS. At that point DS owned them too, casually downing Robin and a gorilla shaped Beast Boy by smashing their heads together.
If you think of it he took on 10-12 characters and beat them.
The fight ended when he run to a collapsing building.
The whole team couldn't catch him.That's why I think DS is on a whole different level.
he is able to predict his opponents moves, when he fought flash against the rest of the league, green arrow said DS had the upper hand because he was thinking several steps ahead, i didn't say he had any power, but after repeated encounters with an opponent he knows their moves better than them. That's why he was toying with the titans, it was a great feat ofcourse however,
the first part of your post is using abd logic, tagging a speedster is a speed feat that's a dime a dozen, Black Panther has the advantages because of his weaponry.
this fight is very close though, whoever takes it it's by a small margin.
Originally posted by comicfan11
Anyway this is ridiculous.
DS is fast enough to tag Flash on a constant basis.
Has HF to the point where he can take bullets without problem and has manhandled Donna Troy (who would wreck Sabertooth strengthwise) among others before.
Hell in one of his latest appearances he wrecked an enitre team of Titans yet again
But has been held to a h2h standstill by Nightwing, and Batman..both whom would be beaten by Black Panther.
High showings and low showings friend, Someone able to tag flash consistantly should have no problem with street levellers like the bat family.
Originally posted by Juk3n
But has been held to a h2h standstill by Nightwing, and Batman..both whom would be beaten by Black Panther.High showings and low showings friend, Someone able to tag flash consistantly should have no problem with street levellers like the bat family.
Have to agree on that.
But Nightwing holding his own happened in his own book.
Batman needed Robin and Nightwing to beat him in Infinite Crisis.
The thing is that his high showings far outnumber his very few low ones.
Because of that on average DS is that good.
Originally posted by Trackz
he is able to predict his opponents moves, when he fought flash against the rest of the league, green arrow said DS had the upper hand because he was thinking several steps ahead, i didn't say he had any power, but after repeated encounters with an opponent he knows their moves better than them. That's why he was toying with the titans, it was a great feat ofcourse however,the first part of your post is using abd logic, tagging a speedster is a speed feat that's a dime a dozen, Black Panther has the advantages because of his weaponry.
this fight is very close though, whoever takes it it's by a small margin.
The speed feat I use as an example is used to indicate that DS is faster than BP.
And I see no proof that BP can keep up with this kind of physical advantage that DS has.
Another advantage is his strength, since he can overpower or at least knock away character like Donna Troy or an animal shaped Beast Boy, and these are strength feats
In short BP's only shot is his arsenal and armor, but that's no big deal since DS has many weapons in his standard equipment that can down a helicopter with one shot or stun at least mid level metas.