Daken vs Ronin

Started by srankmissingnin3 pages

Nah he is just crazy durability.

Well, Ronin pumped him full of bullets, Daken stabbed him bicep, and DP gutted him. He has some kind of enhanced healing?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Well, Ronin pumped him full of bullets, Daken stabbed him bicep, and DP gutted him. He has some kind of enhanced healing?

American eagle snapped his neck and Elektra stabbed him

Moon Knight hit him with those blades in the chest, arms, etc.

I totally misread the title of this thread. I thought it was Daken versus Robin.

This:

Originally posted by psycho gundam
"you're definitely not your father."

heh

but of coarse if it was him alone with daken he'd lose the majority imo

Didn't help in the slightest...

Originally posted by jalek moye
American eagle snapped his neck and Elektra stabbed him

It was basically explained that the only reason he healed from AE snapping his neck was due to the medical tech in Thunderbolts mountain.

Same way medical tech in Avengers tower was used to help him recover faster from when DP impaled him...

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Well, Ronin pumped him full of bullets, Daken stabbed him bicep, and DP gutted him. He has some kind of enhanced healing?

To be quite honest it didnt look like he anything that vital ie heart or brain. Due to the advanced tech and is severe toughness he could survive that.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
It was basically explained that the only reason he healed from AE snapping his neck was due to the medical tech in Thunderbolts mountain.

Same way medical tech in Avengers tower was used to help him recover faster from when DP impaled him...

Yea, I was thinking he had some kind of help to heal from some of those injuries.

Yeah but he should be dead by now. He's like target practice for people now kinda ironic.

Originally posted by jalek moye
unoffically he does

Didn't Bendis just make it official? "Too bad you'll heal".

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Just realized something. The List: Avengers takes place right after Utopia. Even friggin Fraction knew about the muramasa claws. And Daken's bone claws are black, not white. Sounds like a doppelganger.

*sigh* Of course I know the truth, Bendis doesn't care.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Didn't Bendis just make it official? "Too bad you'll heal".

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Just realized something. The List: Avengers takes place right after Utopia. Even friggin Fraction knew about the muramasa claws. And Daken's bone claws are black, not white. Sounds like a doppelganger.

*sigh* Of course I know the truth, Bendis doesn't care.

maybe he wrote the story before daken was given the claws

Heres the thing. I think you guys might be reading too much into this. First of all your saying that the murmasa blades stop people from healing. Thing is Ronin doesn't actually have a HF in the first place. Hes probably more durable than normal and can resist pain, so in that space of time that doesn't make a difference. Im also not sure that Daken's pheremones also work straight away as well, it could be argued that it the fight didnt last long enough for it to work.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Heres the thing. I think you guys might be reading too much into this. First of all your saying that the murmasa blades stop people from healing. Thing is Ronin doesn't actually have a HF in the first place. Hes probably more durable than normal and can resist pain, so in that space of time that doesn't make a difference. Im also not sure that Daken's pheremones also work straight away as well, it could be argued that it the fight didnt last long enough for it to work.

Actaully it made a huge differences. If bendis knew anything about Daken he known Ronin would be dead, and no amount of durability would save you. And yes Daken pheramones work right away, but of courses bendis likly did not even read enough into daken to know he had the Murmasa blade or pheramones.

whats worses is Bendis thinks hawlk eye has powers........

Ive read Dakens fight with Wolverine, Wolverine hallucinated once out of the whole fight.

Daken fought Cyber and Cyber didn't hallucinate after he get hit by the claws.

If you have high resistance to pain vital organs are not hit it doesnt matter if you can't heal, you can carry on fighting. Look at Punisher's fight with Wolverine.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Ive read Dakens fight with Wolverine, Wolverine hallucinated once out of the whole fight.

Daken fought Cyber and Cyber didn't hallucinate after he get hit by the claws.

If you have high resistance to pain vital organs are not hit it doesnt matter if you can't heal, you can carry on fighting. Look at Punisher's fight with Wolverine.


Who said daken makes people Hallucinate? Thats not what his pheramones do.

Ronin pain tolerances is not punisher level, and it not that it would kill him right away it the fact Ronin would now be dead......he can't survive that attack no matter what his body can't heal that damage, but of course ronin will some one survive because of courses bendis has no idea about daken powerset at all or personality which was quite evident.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
of courses bendis has no idea about daken powerset at all or personality which was quite evident.
yeah, of course, once again you know far more about how a character should be portrayed than a renowned comic book writer huh? 🙄

daken's pheromones act very subtly...they are not mind controllers...they just impact your emotions that are already present. it will have little effect on ronin. Daken also does not have adamantium, so one arrow through the skull and he is done.

Originally posted by Starscream M
yeah, of course, once again you know far more about how a character should be portrayed than a renowned comic book writer huh? 🙄

daken's pheromones act very subtly...they are not mind controllers...they just impact your emotions that are already present. it will have little effect on ronin. Daken also does not have adamantium, so one arrow through the skull and he is done.


Yes seems so, becuases ive actaully read the character before and know his powerset and don't simply ignore them.

Actaully they messes with your perception as well and would have great effect on ronin, hell ronin hititng Daken with the arrow is rediculous. Spiderman could not even tagg daken untill he relied purelly in his spidersenses to combat the pheramones.

also Daken claws are not white. Daken stabb ronin with his third claw......you know the claw that can kill anyone and makes you unable to heal the damage........

oh and bendis is the same guy who believes ronin has powers......which is absurd......

also daken attacking like that was redciulous as well, daken not a beast, he loves to toy with people and he extremely intelligent.

Im pretty sure somebody stated Daken's pheremones make you halluciante. Apart from that what else?

Ronin may not have Punisher pain tolerance but Punisher suffered the same attack from Wolverine and didn't die. I wouldnt be suprised if other street levelers have taken similar injuries and carried on fighting.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Im pretty sure somebody stated Daken's pheremones make you halluciante. Apart from that what else?

Ronin may not have Punisher pain tolerance but Punisher suffered the same attack from Wolverine and didn't die. I wouldnt be suprised if other street levelers have taken similar injuries and carried on fighting.


They screw with your perception.

I not even sure what instances your refferring to, I bet it was my man ennis who wrote it though. Wolverine does not posses a magical claw which makes you unable to heal.......so no matter if ronin is able to keep fighting he will bleed to death no matter what. there no way to heal the damage done.

Well whatever they screw your perception hallucinate the samething. Einnis? Was that supposed to be some sort of joke or are you for real? It was Wolverine Origins.

LOL again I already explained why it not healing doesnt mean anything.

If you have high resistance to pain vital organs are not hit it doesnt matter if you can't heal, you can carry on fighting.