Originally posted by RapidashYou are claiming Wesker is not an impressive H2H fighter, and your main point is that he could dominate the characters in RE5 because of speed, not skill.
How can it ignore any facts simply because I don't find him impressive?
I am telling you he was a capable H2H combatant while human.
How was he not "impressive," btw, considering every single attack of his has its origins in martial arts?
Originally posted by NemeBro
You are claiming Wesker is not an impressive H2H fighter, and your main point is that he could dominate the characters in RE5 because of speed, not skill.I am telling you he was a capable H2H combatant while human.
How was he not "impressive," btw, considering every single attack of his has its origins in martial arts?
I'm claiming that I'm not impressed by his H2H fighting, not that it can't be defined as impressive. Impressive to me is to be at the pinnacle of capabilities and to master moves that common man is unable to preform.
You can't deny that speed is Wesker's greatest advantage.
Impressive is Chuck Norris. Impressive is Bruce Lee. Impressive is Dead Fantasy. I don't find Wesker impressive.
Originally posted by RapidashSo it is not that Wesker isn't impressive, it is that your standards are high.
I'm claiming that I'm not impressed by his H2H fighting, not that it can't be defined as impressive. Impressive to me is to be at the pinnacle of capabilities and to master moves that common man is unable to preform.
You can't deny that speed is Wesker's greatest advantage.Impressive is Chuck Norris. Impressive is Bruce Lee. Impressive is Dead Fantasy. I don't find Wesker impressive.
Regardless however, your definition of what makes a good H2H combatant is flawed, the "moves that the common man is unable to perform" are very rarely the most efficient move to use in real combat.
The most efficient H2H maneuver, is and always will be a simple punch to the face, something Wesker is pretty good at. 馃槢
I'll answer by first bringing up what I first said:
Originally posted by Rapidash
His H2H combat was never that impressive to begin with. He won most RE5 battles due to his speed.
Had Wesker never had his speed or durability, a bullet would've stopped him first time he fought Jill. Back in RE2, he relied completely on his superhuman nature and beat Chris due to being so vastly superior in terms of physiology. In RE5 he frequently use his superhuman abilities to take advantage of a battle and he use them every chance he gets.
While the things he does can individually be defined as impressive, in a combination they really aren't. Sure he's using martial arts, but he doesn't need them, and when he often use them, he combine them with his superhuman nature.
By moves that can't be mastered by common man, I meant abilities that are useful despite their tough nature, not just any moves. When I'm talking about Wesker not being impressive, I'm saying so because he rely on his superhuman physiology.
His talents may be impressive, but because Wesker is who he is, they really aren't. He constantly gets the jump on Chris and Sheva due to his speed, and what times he doesn't, his superhuman strength and durability saves the day.
He's a walking life insurance because of his many abilities and his superhuman nature. I'm not impressed. Simple as that. That doesn't mean I don't think he's good. He's great, and he has some great martial art moves and combat techniques.
It's just that he doesn't win because he's good. It's because Chris and Sheva are inferior.
Anyone can be put down by a bullet, no matter how skilled they are.
Does he defeat Sheva and Chris so effortlessly because of his superhuman abilities? Yes.
But that is entirely different than what you said, you said his H2H combat abilities are not impressive, which has no relevance to how Wesker easily defeats Chris and Sheva whatsoever.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Anyone can be put down by a bullet, no matter how skilled they are.Does he defeat Sheva and Chris so effortlessly because of his superhuman abilities? Yes.
But that is entirely different than what you said, you said his H2H combat abilities are not impressive, which has no relevance to how Wesker easily defeats Chris and Sheva whatsoever.
Bad phrasing from my side: He would not have fought two armed opponents as efficient as he did without his abilities even if he started just between the two.
It's not relevant to how he beats them, no, but I still don't think it's impressive. Sheva, Jill and Chris are Albert inferior, so if he does have impressive martial art talents, he has not shown them.
His H2H abilities are rather irrelevant anyway and the only reason that the topic was brought up was because Wei Phoenix included them when I said that Wesker's greatest advantage is his speed.
When he responded "and H2H ability", I simply gave the statement that I didn't find it impressive. Which I don't. Which I frankly should declare aren't. Theoretically perhaps, but via showing; No.
Originally posted by Nemesis X
Wait, who said that Wesker's H2H skills aren't impressive? They gotta be blind if they're saying that.
I said it. Albert Wesker's H2H skills aren't impressive. As for my vision, it is perfectly fine.