if skaar wins by some stupid plot device i'm gonna be upset.
here we have a person who can atleast challenge the gods (thor presents a problem, but most gods juggernaut could walk over).
who has shrugged off everything he's encountered except future tech. far beyond banner...
he's been dissolved to bone, but somehow skaar/banner are gonna beat him?? come on... i hope not.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Pak was stupid enough to job out Strange/Zom so that Hulk would win.Anything is possible with that guy.
Well, hang on there. Skaar is one thing, but Hulk is a seasoned top-tier brick. If he beats someone, it's all good, especially if it's an uber-amped Hulk who was said to be(in WWHulk incarnation) the most powerful guy in the galaxy, not to mention the entire time he was holding back a big bulk of his power. If someone absurdly powerful beats him, it's all good. But Skaar is new and not nearly as powerful as Hulk. If Skaar beats someone we all know and love, it's "No f*cking way!!". If someone we know and love beats him, it's "Yeah, of course".
Originally posted by KillAll
if skaar wins by some stupid plot device i'm gonna be upset.here we have a person who can atleast challenge the gods (thor presents a problem, but most gods juggernaut could walk over).
who has shrugged off everything he's encountered except future tech. far beyond banner...
he's been dissolved to bone, but somehow skaar/banner are gonna beat him?? come on... i hope not.
Skaar had a plot devise the oldpower. If the oldpower can negate parts juggs enchantment. Skaar should be able to go toe to toe with him.
Originally posted by Master Court
Well, hang on there. Skaar is one thing, but Hulk is a seasoned top-tier brick. If he beats someone, it's all good, especially if it's an uber-amped Hulk who was said to be(in WWHulk incarnation) the most powerful guy in the galaxy, not to mention the entire time he was holding back a big bulk of his power. If someone absurdly powerful beats him, it's all good. But Skaar is new and not nearly as powerful as Hulk. If Skaar beats someone we all know and love, it's "No f*cking way!!". If someone we know and love beats him, it's "Yeah, of course".
Well...that's just swell, swell. Do you know who Zom is?
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Well...that's just swell, swell. Do you know who Zom is?
*sigh*
He wasn't fighting Zom. He was fighting Strange, channeling the power of Zom. It usually takes those high-end cosmic f*cknuts to f*cking stop the actual Zom. It would make more sense to assume that, instead of Hulk beating Zom, Strange merely borrowed some power from Zom. And he was trying to controlling himself. Not to mention Hulk was holding back the entire time. We saw his true power when he went World Breaker. Footstep earthquakes and all that sh*t. Since we can't be for certain how much power Strange channeled from Zom - because Strange was holding back -, combined with the fact that we can't be for certain how much power Hulk was holding back - which was obviously immense considering WBHulk couldn't even move without causing extreme damage -, we can't possibly say for certain who was taking more liberties with their power at the time. So it doesn't make a difference that Hulk beat Zom/Strange. Hulk didn't beat Zom. Not the actual Zom personally, anyway. How the f*ck would he?
I hope you get what I meant now. Hulk's high showings are respectable. But if Skaar can duplicate them, it's bullsh*t. Know what I mean?
Originally posted by Master Court
*sigh*He wasn't fighting Zom. He was fighting Strange, channeling the power of Zom. It usually takes those high-end cosmic f*cknuts to f*cking stop the actual Zom. It would make more sense to assume that, instead of Hulk beating Zom, Strange merely borrowed some power from Zom. And he was trying to controlling himself. Not to mention Hulk was holding back the entire time. We saw his true power when he went World Breaker. Footstep earthquakes and all that sh*t. Since we can't be for certain how much power Strange channeled from Zom - because Strange was holding back -, combined with the fact that we can't be for certain how much power Hulk was holding back - which was obviously immense considering WBHulk couldn't even move without causing extreme damage -, we can't possibly say for certain who was taking more liberties with their power at the time. So it doesn't make a difference that Hulk beat Zom/Strange. Hulk didn't beat Zom. Not the actual Zom personally, anyway. How the f*ck would he?
I hope you get what I meant now. Hulk's high showings are respectable. But if Skaar can duplicate them, it's bullsh*t. Know what I mean?
wasn't it stated that strange had only channeled a little bit of zom's power so he wouldn't go insane?...I think i remember reading that somewhere.
Originally posted by Master Court
*sigh*He wasn't fighting Zom. He was fighting Strange, channeling the power of Zom. It usually takes those high-end cosmic f*cknuts to f*cking stop the actual Zom. It would make more sense to assume that, instead of Hulk beating Zom, Strange merely borrowed some power from Zom. And he was trying to controlling himself. Not to mention Hulk was holding back the entire time. We saw his true power when he went World Breaker. Footstep earthquakes and all that sh*t. Since we can't be for certain how much power Strange channeled from Zom - because Strange was holding back -, combined with the fact that we can't be for certain how much power Hulk was holding back - which was obviously immense considering WBHulk couldn't even move without causing extreme damage -, we can't possibly say for certain who was taking more liberties with their power at the time. So it doesn't make a difference that Hulk beat Zom/Strange. Hulk didn't beat Zom. Not the actual Zom personally, anyway. How the f*ck would he?
I hope you get what I meant now. Hulk's high showings are respectable. But if Skaar can duplicate them, it's bullsh*t. Know what I mean?
I see what you're saying. The problem is we go by feats mostly or atleast I do mostly. I say it's BS if Skaar can some how duplicate a Hulk feat because Skaar hasn't done anything like it in the past. If, all of a sudden, Skaar has the ability to defeat someone like the Juggernaut, it will be considered suspect by most of the more discerning comic fans. I see most Hulk and/or Skaar fans think Skaar is out of the blue going to be able to wield the OldPower effectively enough to defeat the Juggernaut. Have you seen Skaar with the OldPower? He's a newb with it. He's had nothing but bad showings with it.
Also, I wasn't talking about Strange only tapping a small amount of Zoms power. I was talking about how Pak changed the events of the fight mid way just to give Hulk the win. Strange/Zom was absolutely handing Hulk his ass until, all of the sudden, Strange seens the collateral damage he's causing and just stops fighting.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
I see what you're saying. The problem is we go by feats mostly or atleast I do mostly. I say it's BS if Skaar can some how duplicate a Hulk feat because Skaar hasn't done anything like it in the past. If, all of a sudden, Skaar has the ability to defeat someone like the Juggernaut, it will be considered suspect by most of the more discerning comic fans. I see most Hulk and/or Skaar fans think Skaar is out of the blue going to be able to wield the OldPower effectively enough to defeat the Juggernaut. Have you seen Skaar with the OldPower? He's a newb with it. He's had nothing but bad showings with it.
Well, from what I can see, we agree here.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Also, I wasn't talking about Strange only tapping a small amount of Zoms power. I was talking about how Pak changed the events of the fight mid way just to give Hulk the win. Strange/Zom was absolutely handing Hulk his ass until, all of the sudden, Strange seens the collateral damage he's causing and just stops fighting.
Well, if you consider more than the pace and direction of the fight, it's perfectly acceptable. For one, besides looking a little disheveled, Hulk didn't seem at all bothered by the huge holes Zom/Strange had blasted through him. Just a page after Zom/Strange pauses, the holes and injuries are completely gone. Considering before that, Hulk's healing factor survived being shredded by thousands of adamantium bullets, it's possible Zom/Strange simply wasn't doing enough damage. At the first opportunity Hulk had, he easily took the fight. From the way I see it, Hulk was taken off guard by Zom/Strange's power, but besides being put through a little pain, Hulk's healing factor basically meant Hulk couldn't be put down like that.
