Jake Hoyt/Alonzo Harris versus Jake Roenick/Marion Bishop...

Jake Hoyt and Alonzo from "Training Day" versus Jake Roenick and Marion Bishop from "Assault on Precinct 13."

The fight takes place at night, same scenario as the end of "Assault on precinct 13", in the woods while it's snowing. Each combatant is armed with two Beretta 9mm handguns and as much ammo as they can carry.

DUDE Roenick just killed a guy with an icicle to the eye, he pulled a McClane!!!

Bishop seems more skilled than these 3 guys by a bit.

Not really, not onscreen.

alonzo gets surgical

Roenick, IMO, is the biggest badass here.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Roenick, IMO, is the biggest badass here.

Originally posted by gobstakid777
alonzo was manipulatin mofos and saw how he whupped hoyt's ass, and how good he was with the shotgun,along with his observancee
alonzo undoubtedly takes the badass cake here

Roenick took on a buncha highly trained cops, controlled a precinct filled with good cops, bad cops, AND criminals, took a bullet in the leg, and pwned in epic proportions.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Alonzo manipulated one guy, Jake, who was far too trusting. He wasnt that surgical with a shotgun, it doesnt take that much skill to kill with one.

Roenick took on a buncha highly trained cops, controlled a precinct filled with good cops, bad cops, AND criminals, took a bullet in the leg, and pwned in epic proportions.

Alonzo was manhandling everyone, jake jus happened to get lucky
and he was manipulatiung everyone roger,his soldiers, everyone

Originally posted by gobstakid777
Alonzo was manhandling everyone, jake jus happened to get lucky

Alonzo is smarter than Roenick, no doubt, but in terms of being a badass h2h and with a gun, facing incredible odds and winning, Roenick is a clone of McClane.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Um....no. Alonzo was in charge of a group of already corrupt cops, he simply gave them orders that they would have come to on their own.

Alonzo is smarter than Roenick, no doubt, but in terms of being a badass h2h and with a gun, facing incredible odds and winning, Roenick is a clone of McClane.

alonzo was badass w/ that gun

f*ck it

Roenick wins this match

but Alonzo is the more badass character by far

As I said, a shotgun doesnt require mad skills, thats the point, pellet spread.

come on alonzo was a monster
he is far more badass

Nah, Roenick pwns him like a plantation massah.

i already said the AOP13 team wins, but alonzo is the most badass

But Roenick did more badass things onscreen.

i think not

✅ Did Alonzo fight a cop h2h and kill him with an icicle?

Did Alonzo control a precinct full of cops and criminals?

Did Alonzo pwn cops in the woods, who had nightvision gear?

Did Alonzo kill cop after cop after cop, all of them armed with machine guns and wearing armor?

Nope.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Not really, not onscreen.

Not really, Roenick kicked more ass than Bishop. Yes, the remake.