Institute of Medicine estimates 18,000 American's die from lack of health coverage

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Before such there was NO modern type justice system in any country - it was a feudal/religious ''court'' rule that put people to death.
It was the whole reason for the creation of justice system, and thank the French, otherwise you'd still be chopping heads off for all kinds of offences.

lol, at the risk of another "off topic" warning...

how do the traveling judges of England and the rule of precedence fit into this? Does that predate the French revolution or was it something adopted sort of to parallel what you are talking about?

Originally posted by King Kandy
Again, if you have nothing to say about problems in an IDEALIZED death penalty system, then nothing you say can in any way form a counterpoint to Jello or my post. Theory=/=practice.

what is the purpose of discussing idealized things? technically, religion is perfect when idealized, so is fascism, and slavery...

Originally posted by dadudemon
Hey, I'm just explaining what KK said. That's what he was getting at. 😬

And, ever hear of the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation? awesome Good ol' Bill is nicer than you thought, eh?

And I explained why my post you replied to still stands.

I knew of it, yes.

Originally posted by Bardock42
And I explained why my post you replied to still stands.

I knew of it, yes.

And I explained that "duty to rescue" actually exists. And, since the organization is DIRECTLY involved in the healthcare and survival of a person, you're comparisons to other rich people is flawed. I didn't want to call you on it, but, you're getting lippy. I was going to let KK take care of it.

And, if you knew of it, why did you mention Bill Gates name? Hmmm? You think that's air you're breathing?

All i'm saying, is that most of the time the diseases would not have killed them if they were treated. Hence, if everyone were able to be treated, these deaths would not occur.

This is bananas yo because i was just thinking..,"yo, by my calculamlations 18,000 americans die each year from inoculation shots". hmmmmm. this is a weird coincidence.

Based on what came out about the woman with lung cancer, can we ask how many Americans die each year because their insurance company covers of their serious medical conditions until it's too late?

How about the woman who got fired because of her lupus, and since she lost her health insurance providing job, she died from it.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
Based on what came out about the woman with lung cancer, can we ask how many Americans die each year because their insurance company covers of their serious medical conditions until it's too late?

Originally posted by dadudemon
And I explained that "duty to rescue" actually exists. And, since the organization is DIRECTLY involved in the healthcare and survival of a person, you're comparisons to other rich people is flawed. I didn't want to call you on it, but, you're getting lippy. I was going to let KK take care of it.

And, if you knew of it, why did you mention Bill Gates name? Hmmm? You think that's air you're breathing?

You are wrong though, the comparison to rich people is fair in the wording of the law that you quoted to me. There's no reason according to the law (forgetting once more that it SOLELY applies to real persons under the law) to single out insurance companies, anyone else who could reasonably provide for their coverage is just as guilty.

Well, it's something, I tend to call it air.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh, I agree that insurance companies, especially in the US, are pieces of shit, I just figure one should blame them for what they do.

You are wrong though, the comparison to rich people is fair in the wording of the law that you quoted to me. There's no reason according to the law (forgetting once more that it SOLELY applies to real persons under the law) to single out insurance companies, anyone else who could reasonably provide for their coverage is just as guilty.

Well, it's something, I tend to call it air.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I never said that the insurance companies are doing anything illegal, but what they are doing is immoral and hurts the US.

You mean not covering everyone even if they can't pay?

Or that really immoral stuff?

Their existence is inherently immoral.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Their existence is inherently immoral.

Don't be ridiculous. How so?

Originally posted by Bardock42
You are wrong though, the comparison to rich people is fair in the wording of the law that you quoted to me. There's no reason according to the law (forgetting once more that it SOLELY applies to real persons under the law) to single out insurance companies, anyone else who could reasonably provide for their coverage is just as guilty.

"since the organization is DIRECTLY involved in the healthcare and survival of a person, you're comparisons to other rich people is flawed."

Emphasis was made on purpose. You can't get into trouble because your inaction indirectly allowed someone to die. Do you see what that point of yours is horribly illogical?

Originally posted by dadudemon
"since the organization is DIRECTLY involved in the healthcare and survival of a person, you're comparisons to other rich people is flawed."

Emphasis was made on purpose. You can't get into trouble because your inaction indirectly allowed someone to die. Do you see what that point of yours is horribly illogical?

Can or should this topic be merged with the health care thread?