One would assume that we might see a team up of the heroes shown in the beginning, Spidey, Cage, IF, Wolvie, to put some hurt on the Thunderbolts. They might just put together a big team to do some damage. What I am expecting is Ant-Man to do something stupid and reveal what Ghost and the others did, or something like that.
wow now that's what i call a total disrespect to mister x , what happened in thunderbolts #137 is just a total disrespect and bull@hit , just because mister x couldn't read luke cage's mind doesn't mean he cant fight now i mean fine he cant read his mind but where are all his skills? mister x knows almost any martial art exists and he knows alien martial arts he suppose to be a superb fighter now just because he couldn't read luke's mind suddenly he lost all his skills speed agility reflex everything and got stomped by luke cage like he doesn't know how to fight? i piss on that issue
Actually, he was already in the air trying to downward stab Cage when he realized he couldn't read his mind. There was really nothing he could do once Cage grabbed his swords. Then Cage hit him one time, so it's not out of the realm of possibility.
And when Luke and IF took him on, it was also true that he couldn't read both minds at once, so he got confused on who to defend against.
Originally posted by KingD19
Actually, he was already in the air trying to downward stab Cage when he realized he couldn't read his mind. There was really nothing he could do once Cage grabbed his swords. Then Cage hit him one time, so it's not out of the realm of possibility.And when Luke and IF took him on, it was also true that he couldn't read both minds at once, so he got confused on who to defend against.
are you joking? when he landed and cage grabs both his swords there are millions things a good martial artist like him could do like kick cage in the face or tackle him with a low kick to his feet he is suppose to be peak human fast and have amazing reflexes but the writer ignore all that and just made him some punk that can only read minds and without the mind reading he cant fight
when he fought IF and luke at same time still with his skills that he suppose to have he was suppose to block luke attack , thats his weakness he was trying to fight them with the telepathy now if he would just use his skills he should be able to avoid a punch from some break (f*ck any explanation of how trained luke cage is because he isnt suppose to be at the same level as mister x)
Originally posted by Spectrumenianapparently
the ability to get beat up by wolverine in couple pannelsthe ability to get one shoted twice by luke cage
the ability to get one shoted by IF
If low level telepathy is the only reason you can survive against real fighters you are pretty shit.
Every other top level streetleveler martial artists have skill skills without relying on special powers.
You can give wolverine shit for relying on his HF and adamantium skeleton to much.
But he has won fights on learned skills alone without the use of his powers so has steve rodgers so have most top lvls mas.
Can X actually beat any top 10 martial artists WITHOUT his telepathy ?
he was doing fine evading and countering logan even after he was unable to read logan for a little while..
in the IF vs X thing he wasnt even given that much of a chance complete utter garbage..
he is a lvl 7 fighter as well even without the TP or whatever he has.. his TP ability is only suppose to complement his already existing skill set.. complete retardation...
If marvel hadnt bn bought by disney that issue would have cost them numerous of fans and a pinch in their pockets.. 😒
Originally posted by Wild ShadowShow me an instance where he has won a fight against a real top level opponent without his telepathy ? on skill and ability alone.
he was doing fine evading and countering logan even after he was unable to read logan for a little while..in the IF vs X thing he wasnt even given that much of a chance complete utter garbage..
he is a lvl 7 fighter as well even without the TP or whatever he has.. his TP ability is only suppose to complement his already existing skill set.. complete retardation...
If marvel hadnt bn bought by disney that issue would have cost them numerous of fans and a pinch in their pockets.. 😒
Every top ma in the Marvel and DC universes has at least one feat of beating opponents with learned skill alone except X.
Originally posted by Spectrumenian
are you joking? when he landed and cage grabs both his swords there are millions things a good martial artist like him could do like kick cage in the face or tackle him with a low kick to his feet he is suppose to be peak human fast and have amazing reflexes but the writer ignore all that and just made him some punk that can only read minds and without the mind reading he cant fightwhen he fought IF and luke at same time still with his skills that he suppose to have he was suppose to block luke attack , thats his weakness he was trying to fight them with the telepathy now if he would just use his skills he should be able to avoid a punch from some break (f*ck any explanation of how trained luke cage is because he isnt suppose to be at the same level as mister x)
Are you joking? When Cage grabbed both of his swords, all the millions of things a good martial artist could've done, were for sh*t, X is peak human at best, Cage is Class 30 with like Class 80-90 durability. Kicking him in the face wouldn't have hurt, it would've pissed him off, low kick would've gotten X's legs messed up since Luke was braced. The simple fact is, X is good, but he's gotten so reliant on using his powers, he doesn't really just fight anymore.
When he fought Cage and IF at the same time, if he tried to block Luke's attack, whatever he blocked with would be broken, you saw how messed up Paladin was. Once again, he was reliant on his powers(which he needed for IF, since he's not in his league), he was probably thinking of IF as the bigger threat, which left him open for Cage to destroy.
You're not an X fanboy are you??? 😎
Originally posted by godkingYeah that is true. Hadn't thought of it like that but he hasn't.
Show me an instance where he has won a fight against a real top level opponent without his telepathy ? on skill and ability alone.Every top ma in the Marvel and DC universes has at least one feat of beating opponents with learned skill alone except X.
Wolvie has feats without adamantium
Danny has feats without his chi
Batman and Cap don't really have any powers at all and they do just fine.
Moon Knight without the full moon amp has done fine.
Now to be fair he doesn't have the history of some of these characters, but your point is well taken.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
he was doing fine evading and countering logan even after he was unable to read logan for a little while..in the IF vs X thing he wasnt even given that much of a chance complete utter garbage..
he is a lvl 7 fighter as well even without the TP or whatever he has.. his TP ability is only suppose to complement his already existing skill set.. complete retardation...
If marvel hadnt bn bought by disney that issue would have cost them numerous of fans and a pinch in their pockets.. 😒
I have no problem with my boy IF beating X. I just wanted to see a really good battle. I mean I know Marvel is pushing Danny as the best fighter in the MU and rightfully so. But X properly written should have done better then that.