Originally posted by Bardock42The Hatch's Notes version:
Could, want him to tell more.
Julian West is a famous man living in 1887 Boston. He undergoes hypnosis and wakes up in the year 2000. He encounters a utopian society where everything is perfectly orderly and boring. All markets have been removed from society and everything is centrally planned by a few overarching residents deemed to be worthy. The civil servants only recieve minimal pay, but consider the social welfare to be of the utmost importance. West sees Boston's urban planning from atop a skyscraper and sees perfect order and harmony where there was none in his lifetime. There are regular public marches, the mandatory retirement age is 45, and the idea of a private life is considered apocrypha. Everyone gets the exact same amount of pay each year.
It's kind of hard to describe the impact of the book without reading it first. I made the thread because the general political bent here seems to be left. And a leftist can't really justify their beliefs without avoiding the fact that progressive ideas by necessity need coercion to do anything meaningful.
Originally posted by Dr Will HatchAh, so that's a utopian novel describing communism (or some sort of socialism) as ideal? And I am not sure what you mean with progressive minded people, do you mean the social democrats we have? Or the libertarians? Or what?
The Hatch's Notes version:Julian West is a famous man living in 1887 Boston. He undergoes hypnosis and wakes up in the year 2000. He encounters a utopian society where everything is perfectly orderly and boring. All markets have been removed from society and everything is centrally planned by a few overarching residents deemed to be worthy. The civil servants only recieve minimal pay, but consider the social welfare to be of the utmost importance. West sees Boston's urban planning from atop a skyscraper and sees perfect order and harmony where there was none in his lifetime. There are regular public marches, the mandatory retirement age is 45, and the idea of a private life is considered apocrypha. Everyone gets the exact same amount of pay each year.
It's kind of hard to describe the impact of the book without reading it first. I made the thread because the general political bent here seems to be left. And a leftist can't really justify their beliefs without avoiding the fact that progressive ideas by necessity need coercion to do anything meaningful.
Originally posted by Robtard
Dude, someone posting "have you read this book?" and someone in reply saying "no, what is is about?" is not trolling, so stop being a dumbass.
That'd be true if that' what he wanted. 😐
However, that's not what he wants. He wants to troll a newb. Something not new to Bardock's actions. 😐
Originally posted by dadudemon
That'd be true if that' what he wanted. 😐However, that's not what he wants. He wants to troll a newb. Something not new to Bardock's actions. 😐
I think your previous:
over Bardock42's post yesterday is causing you to reach now, German asked a simple question, nothing more.
Originally posted by Robtard
I think your previous:over Bardock42's post yesterday is causing you to reach now, German asked a simple question, nothing more.
That has nothing to do with it. If you must know, I apologized to Bardock in IM about getting pissed over it. 😐
However, I'm giving Bardock a hard time about what he's doing because we both know he's just trying to get under that poster's skin, as he does. What he's doing is very typical behavior on his part. WHY does he need to know what the book is about from THAT particular poster? hmm?
You think that's air you're breathing?