Kratos and Astaroth vs Onaga and Nariko

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Like who? And does Kratos have any other feats on par with this?

Oh? and why wouldn't he? Doesn't seem like the type to do something like that atleast.

......It's to be expcected from that type of game. Seriously, should i go and play DW as Zhuge Liang or whatever his name is and claim he is teh uber with a fan because i killed lots of people with it and block countless attacks?

And by hard attacks i mean slower more bulky attacks. Maybe it really has been a long time since i saw that game but if memory serve Nariko is much faster in combat and more agile.

He has numerous options that would defeat her from a distance.

He does it in canon and in cutscenes though...And yeah that would be fine. Zhuge Liang if memory recalls is leet as fawk.

Not really...It all depends on the attack and weapon. Also, I do not recall Nariko being that fast, nor agile, Kratos in the GoWIII trailer has shown to ability to run on walls at least.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Like who? And does Kratos have any other feats on par with this?

Oh? and why wouldn't he? Doesn't seem like the type to do something like that atleast.

......It's to be expcected from that type of game. Seriously, should i go and play DW as Zhuge Liang or whatever his name is and claim he is teh uber with a fan because i killed lots of people with it and block countless attacks?

And by hard attacks i mean slower more bulky attacks. Maybe it really has been a long time since i saw that game but if memory serve Nariko is much faster in combat and more agile.

Sima Yi is so much better though. Hell Wei in general is greater than Shu, with Wei Yan as the exception.

I get Sima Yi and Liang confused...Who is the one with the beard lol?

Originally posted by NemeBro
A few people in Bastard!! (A manga) are human and react to lightning and faster attacks.

He has numerous options that would defeat her from a distance.

He does it in canon and in cutscenes though...And yeah that would be fine. Zhuge Liang if memory recalls is leet as fawk.

Not really...It all depends on the attack and weapon. Also, I do not recall Nariko being that fast, nor agile, Kratos in the GoWIII trailer has shown to ability to run on walls at least.

A few people in another universe can react to lightning speed attacks? so what?

But would he realistically use them?

Running on walls? ......... i fail to see the impressiveness of that. Or relevence for that matter.

To be honest i'm kind of getting bored of this one. I vote agree to disagree.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
A few people in another universe can react to lightning speed attacks? so what?

But would he realistically use them?

Running on walls? ......... i fail to see the impressiveness of that. Or relevence for that matter.

To be honest i'm kind of getting bored of this one. I vote agree to disagree.

Um, yeah.

Agility? 😐

Kay, that's kewl.

As far as Kratos' agility is concerned, I'm pretty sure the running on walls thing has to do with an enhancement, given the glowign feet and the wings on his ankles. But don't forget the scene in GoWII that they call Crossing the Lowlands. That whole scene showed a fair bit of agility on Kratos' part (including jumping between walls and leaping distances farther than Nariko's ever done).

^ Tied to Hermes' Sandals (running on walls).

That very sequence also showed some of his strength, he literally punched through a pillar in his way. Even after he lost his powers, he was nearly as strong as Zeus himself (overpowering him at the end, taking the BoO from him, etc.)

In terms of strength, Nariko has no chance. Onaga seems more of a tank to me, though one quick swipe with the Blade of Olympus is all that is needed. He solos if he has that weapon.

Ares revived Kratos' family in a small pocket deminsion then had him to fight the dopelgangers. Kratos cought the lightning during its firing so that is a reaction feat. how can you catch the aim of something?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
That very sequence also showed some of his strength, he literally punched through a pillar in his way. Even after he lost his powers, he was nearly as strong as Zeus himself (overpowering him at the end, taking the BoO from him, etc.)

I wouldn't go as far as saying Kratos is as strong as Zeus (possibly). And if he is, it's probably because of the strength gained from the Titans. Zeus still took the BoO from Kratos, and throwed him around.

As for the lighting, it was over the entire "battle-field" that Kratos was fighting on. So, either way you look at it, he would have caught it, regardless.

As for Kratos jumping, how come he didn't jump from where it had to go in some places? PIS?

overpowered zeus or caught him off guard? the latter to me.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I get Sima Yi and Liang confused...Who is the one with the beard lol?

Liang is the whore from Shu who had Wei Yan killed because he didn't trust him, he also lost to Sima Yi and Zhang He in a battle of strategy.

Sima Yi is the devious mind from Wei who beat Liang's ass and set up the ground work for overtaking Wei.

Originally posted by SuperLuigi
overpowered zeus or caught him off guard? the latter to me.

As for the last sequence, sure he caught him off guard. However, it takes serious strength and perhaps speed to actually keep doing what Kratos did. Stabbing Zeus with his blades (not divinely powered anymore) is also an impressive feat.

With the BoO, he also stood up to Athena in their brief struggle. The BoO only contains his godly powers, it doesn't restore them, therefore, his strength level remained the same.

He is a demi-god named after the personification of strength after all.

Originally posted by iChaos
I wouldn't go as far as saying Kratos is as strong as Zeus (possibly). And if he is, it's probably because of the strength gained from the Titans. Zeus still took the BoO from Kratos, and throwed him around.

As for the lighting, it was over the entire "battle-field" that Kratos was fighting on. So, either way you look at it, he would have caught it, regardless.

As for Kratos jumping, how come he didn't jump from where it had to go in some places? PIS?

Never said he was as strong as Zeus.
Kratos was also able to take the BoO from Zeus, so meh.

Kratos only gains the RotT (temporary power-up) and magic from the Titans, he doesn't gain any extra base strength or any sort of increase to his base abilities.

Lightning & jumping...WUT?

He pretty much had to struggle to take the blade, but yeah. I think he did gain strength or any base abilities. Otherwise, it probably wouldn't be useful getting it from the beginning.

Originally posted by iChaos
He pretty much had to struggle to take the blade, but yeah. I think he did gain strength or any base abilities. Otherwise, it probably wouldn't be useful getting it from the beginning.

Just taking the blade from Zeus (not matter what condition he was in) shows that Kratos' has a high level of physical strength, perhaps not close to that of Zeus, but high nonetheless.

Even if RotT does give him a permanent physical strength upgrade, it's innately part of him from GoW2 onwards, it's not an accessory like Medusa's Gaze .