Spiderman versus "The One"...

Spiderman fights Jet Li's characters from "The One."

Two scenarios....

1: Spiderman versus YuLaw alone. Fight takes place in the subway where Neo fought Agent Smith in "The Matrix."

2: Spiderman versus YuLaw AND Gabe Law. Fight takes place in the dojo where Neo fought Morpheus.

No matrix bullshit, of course. 😉

Gabe and YuLaw are at full strength, as they were at the end of "The One."

Spiderman is....well....As he is at the end of Spiderman 1. We can include Spiderman 2 and 3 later if you guys wish.

TO THE DEATH!!! 😱

Gabe wins by himself.

Yulaw wins, by himself.

Both win easily.

Bullet time is the same or even slower for Yulaw. Yulaw and Gabe are stronger than Neo.

You think it's that easy for them?

Spidey loses

I dont think it's that easy. He can use his webbing and shit, and he is damn fast himself, and do I even need to bring up his spidey sense and superhuman strength? Dude held a cable car in the air like it was nothing.

What the hell, Spider-man at least takes scenario 1.

He is just as fast if not faster, although I don't remember exactly how fast Gabe was.

Secondly, Spider-man is way stronger. I mean Gabe had that lifting two motorcycles feat, which is pretty good, but Spidey can replicate that for sure and then some.

I think if the Laws get up close and personal, they'll bust Spidey up, better if he keeps his distance and uses his webbing and wall crawling.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I dont think it's that easy. He can use his webbing and shit, and he is damn fast himself, and do I even need to bring up his spidey sense and superhuman strength? Dude held a cable car in the air like it was nothing.

They are stronger than Spiderman and much much faster. Spiderman has them in agility, by a long shot, but he's not fast enough to evade them.

On top of that, Goblin ripped the spiderwebbing like it was nothing. They are just as strong if not stronger.

Remember Yulaw picking up those motorcycles and swinging them around like they were styrofoam noodles? That puts his strength on level, at a minimum, with a 10 ton lifter, with ease.

Styro FOAM.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Styro FOAM.

Thanks. 😄 I Have no idea how I got "phone" out of that.

Could Gabe or YuLaw have stopped the train, or held up the cable car like Spidey did?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Could Gabe or YuLaw have stopped the train, or held up the cable car like Spidey did?

Of course not. How does lifting two motorcycles automatically put you on par with those feats? Heck, Gobbly held that cable car up with one arm like nothing while giving a speech.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Gabe wins by himself.

Yulaw wins, by himself.

Both win easily.

Bullet time is the same or even slower for Yulaw. Yulaw and Gabe are stronger than Neo.

Neo was stronger. In the last movie, Neo and Smith were punching each other through buildings. A single punch by either of them was enough to cause a sonic boom devastating enough to blow out all the windows of the surrounding skyscrapers. In essence, Neo and Smith were displaying Superman level feats in that last movie.

Yulaw nor Gabe would have a chance against Neo or Smith..lol

As far as the fight goes, their speed is probably comparable. Spiderman would have an edge on strength. Stopping a runaway train is greater than picking up two motorcycles. As fast as Yulaw is, he couldn't avoid Spidey's webbing. The black agent from the future(can't think of his name) landed several hits on Yulaw, so I know Spidey could tag and web him.

Originally posted by Placidity
Of course not. How does lifting two motorcycles automatically put you on par with those feats? Heck, Gobbly held that cable car up with one arm like nothing while giving a speech.

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
Neo was stronger. In the last movie, Neo and Smith were punching each other through buildings. A single punch by either of them was enough to cause a sonic boom devastating enough to blow out all the windows of the surrounding skyscrapers. In essence, Neo and Smith were displaying Superman level feats in that last movie.

Yulaw nor Gabe would have a chance against Neo or Smith..lol

As far as the fight goes, their speed is probably comparable. Spiderman would have an edge on strength. Stopping a runaway train is greater than picking up two motorcycles. As fast as Yulaw is, he couldn't avoid Spidey's webbing. The black agent from the future(can't think of his name) landed several hits on Yulaw, so I know Spidey could tag and web him.

The strength feats were coming from Smith, primarily, not Neo. Smith was puttin Neo through windows and window frames, and through the ground, and causing concussive fronts.

I think Gabe and Yulaw could quite handily avoid the webbing, and, on top of that, the webbing is easily torn through, as seen by Goblin in the first film.

And stopping the train is not a greater strength feat. Not even close. It's stopping a train with a similar force, over time, and not outright lifting 500 tons times the force of a train moving at 50 mph.

I did the math a while back and what I got was about 10 tons of force applied a second in order to stop a train in ....what was it?... 60 seconds? 90 seconds? (Yes, the numbers really did work out that nicely.)

I forgot the actual numbers...but it came to about 10 tons a second.

Every second of force removes that from the inertia of the train. So, a ten ton force being applied to an object that has an inertia of 3000 tons takes 300 seconds to reduce the speed of it. That's 5 minutes.

I had a table of fores. I don't remember the numbers. But if I remember properly, the inertia of an object doubles at 50 mph. I searched the internet for that. That means it would take 100 seconds to stop a 500 ton train. If anything, that strength feat makes spiderman weaker...as I think the scene was actually closer to 1 minute and 30 second. If you want to verify, you can.

Oh, and the passenger train numbers I'm getting from an actual website. It said a passenger train weights 250. I doubled the weight for good measure. However, that's almost baseless of me to do. How many passengers does a passenger train carry? 200? that's only 18 additional tons.

Now that I think about it, I think I set the weight to 500 due to 25 actually being the double the weight zone. So, it would be (250 * (50/25))/10 = 50 seconds to stop the train.

Edit - And, the fast an object moves, the steeper the "mass" increase. However, that phenomenon doesn't show up in significant numbers until you get into relativistic speeds.....but, I could still be off. I don't remember the "mass table" that showed the rate of mass increase as the speed of an object increased. I can't find it either. If someone wants to pwn me, you can look that up and pwn me. If I'm pwned, you'll be my hero.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Could Gabe or YuLaw have stopped the train, or held up the cable car like Spidey did?

Of course not, they have no way of getting a grip on those buildings on the left and right. They would need webbing.

See? haermm

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
See? haermm

Now, I have to justify why Yulaw's motorcycles feat is greater than 10 tons of force.

We assume that a gallon of gas weighs 6.15 pounds.

How many gallons does that motorcycle hold?

I dunno. I don't even know the model. I don't even remember what they looked like. I need someone to tell me what the model is and I can do the math.

However, just by guesstimating, I can assure you that the force required to accelerate those bikes as fast as he did, through the air, right out in front of himself, is much greater than the force required to stop that train. We are talking in the 3+ times category.

Just so you guys know where I'm coming from with this: The speed at which an object is moved through space is dependent upon the amount of force applied to it. Pretend the force acts on a light object. Then, pretend that same force is applied to a heavier object. The speed that the heavier object moves is slower, if the distance to be moved is the same for each.

So, if we translate Yulaws force to the motorcycles, we can actually get a force measurement out of him. It should be MUCH greater for those heavier police bikes, as he smacked them together quite easily. I am guessing those police bikes weighed 600-800 lbs. He held the bikes out in front of himself and smacked them together like they were Styrofoam. 600+ pound bikes. It is harder to do that than pick them up in the Marvel universe's way of measurement, which is lifting the weigh over the head.

Trust me. Try to pick up two dumbbell weights, 25 lbs each, and lift them straight out in front of you. Now, try to smack them together.

NOW, try to pick those weights up and put them over your head with your arms completely extended.

Which is harder?

By far, it's the picking up up and extending them in front of you.

Now, if you guys want to scale it, find a weight that you can move as easily as Yulaw did. Smack them together. Once you find that weight, find a weight that is your peak. Meaning, find the most weight you can do and extend them straight out and bring your arms together while it is straight out.

Divide your peak weight with the first result and you'll get your multiplication factor. That's how much you would multiply Yulaw's motorcycle weight by to get a lifting power.

So, for instance, I am quite sure the weight required to be light enough will be something close to one pound in each hand, or less. I am sure the peak weight will be something like 25 pounds to 40 pounds. (I could probably do 40 lbs, at most...based on what I do at the gym.) that's 25-40 times more strength.

We have two bikes. So..

(600*2) * 25 = 30000

That's 15 tons.

And here's the high end.

800*2 * 40 = 64000

That's 32 tons.

Of course, that's just a quick example of how to anecdotally figure this out. There is a physics way of doing it and that is to use gravity as the force to overcome. So, you would have an exact limit in weight that would be a maximum. Meaning, that same force applied to a large enough weight would not be overcome, due to the force of gravity acting on that mass. So there is a ceiling of maximum weight he could pick up.

I am not sure of a real world physics number for a theoretical limit on weight he could pick up and slam together other than an unscientific poll from KMC users here. I could have 5 of us do it. Find the heaviest weight we could move as fast as Yulaw did, and then find the heaviest weight possible. Divide the latter by the former and then post it here. Then we could average our numbers and come up with a multiplication factor for Yulaw. Then, multiply the weight of the bikes, as soon as we find that out, by 2 and then by the factor mentioned in the last sentence, and, boom, we have Yulaw's maximum weight for picking up an irregular object and bringing them together, straight out in front of him.

Edit - Wait (lol, no pun intended), I could be totally wrong. I just remembered how fast Yulaw slammed those bikes together. I think that is superhuman. He moved the bikes faster than I peak human can move their arms in the same position he did. So, my numbers would be waaaaay off. It is much higher than what we would calculate, due to how fast he moved his arms. Maybe not. I dunno. I'll have to watch it again. If we just find the weight, then that's fine. It's still off because the bikes were being held out in front of him with the weight on the bikes not all being in his hands, but extending out from himself. Think centripital motion and applying force on a lever on an irregular object with irregular densities. So, in order to make this accurate, we'd have to move objects that are the same shape with the same proportional density to the bike. So, to make it make more sense, it would be harder to move, as fast, a bike that has proportional density and proportional weight to the real bikes Yulaw moved, than if we made the measurement against just dumbbells, as almost all the weight is in the hand.

You forgot sumthin.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You forgot sumthin.

I covered it. I realized it after I posted it.