Modern day USA vs the entire world during WW2
Rules:
NO Nukes
Modern America replaces WW2 America geographically
Another country with the same capabilities as WW2 America appears in Africa on the side of the WW2 dudes
The WW2 dudes have all of their damages and stuff repaired, and Hitler is still around leading Nazi Germany
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
But ''we'' the rest of the world, have on disposal Islamic fundamentalists?And the Chinese and Indians?
''We'' the rest of the world, win.
Islamo-fundies didn't have the tech then that they do now.
The Billions of WW2 era Chinese couldn't repel the Japanese then.
Indians on elephants loose to tanks, jets and machine-guns.
Modern aircraft carriers FTW here, easy too.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
This is the rest of the world AS OF WW2 vs MODERN America
How do you mean?
China has been there all along intact, and so was India, plus we'd have Pakistan and Bangladesh still part of India.
And Islamic fundamentalists didn't appear on Sept 11th. They existed long ago, and as we know certain republics in the middle east were allied or sympathetic to Hitler.
We would also have Korea as one country too, Russia would be some weird psycho dictatorship.
Again, rest of the world, wins.
Originally posted by Robtard
Islamo-fundies didn't have the tech then that they do now.The Billions of WW2 era Chinese couldn't repel the Japanese then.
Indians on elephants loose to tanks, jets and machine-guns.
Modern aircraft carriers FTW here, easy too.
What tech is that? A bomb?
What does Manchuran invasion prove? you're talking about America vs the rest of the world - then such has nothing to do with anything.
Chinese, Japanese (just because of Manchuria), Indian, German and Russian armies would be enough to squash America.
Chinese have people to waste. So do Indians.
(no offence to Chinese, I love you guys!)
I'd say that if we can't use nukes and that was agreed on, we'd go ape shit with vacuum bombs and design a new one to be ICBM capable. We'd build bigger vacuum bombs, as well.
The tech on subs has improved so much that no sub would make it within 200 miles of US soil. Aircraft would be taken out with the literally automatic missles. They even have missiles that can take out other missiles...but that won't even be a factor.
Against an F-22, even modern aircraft don't stand a chance. The missile systems in even antiquated fighter jets who lay waste to all other aircraft.
Quite literally, all opposing aircraft would be taken out long before there was any visual. It would seem almost like magic and they would accuse the US of having phantoms.
And, through diplomacy, we could convince many of the nations to quickly surrender. It would quickly turn into a war against very few nations, especially after the first day or two of fighting.
I'd say the same about Modern Russia versus the rest of 1940 world, too. However, I wouldn't be surprised if they used Nukes.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
What tech is that? A bomb?
What does Manchuran invasion prove? you're talking about America vs the rest of the world - then such has nothing to do with anything.Chinese, Japanese (just because of Manchuria), Indian, German and Russian armies would be enough to squash America.
Chinese have people to waste. So do Indians.(no offence to Chinese, I love you guys!)
Cell phones, plane tickets, the internet etc.
The Chinese despite their billions couldn't stave off the 1940's Japanese army, yet you think they're going to hold against America with 21st century technology?
These countries probably couldn't squash America in the 40's. They're not doing it now when America has 70 years of a technological edge in this scenario.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
How do you mean?China has been there all along intact, and so was India, plus we'd have Pakistan and Bangladesh still part of India.
And Islamic fundamentalists didn't appear on Sept 11th. They existed long ago, and as we know certain republics in the middle east were allied or sympathetic to Hitler.We would also have Korea as one country too, Russia would be some weird psycho dictatorship.
Again, rest of the world, wins.
I mean that in this scenario America gets modern technology while the world's stuck with WW2 tech.
Oh, and I really don't have any idea why some fundamentalists would make a win for the world. Korea would fail, and Russia wouldn't be able to get within a few hundred miles of US territory.
In this case it's quality vs quantity.
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
what is the usa's military goal here? is to occupy the other countries... or just kill the shit out of them?if our goal is to just kill everything and cripple the countries then we can win very easily with almost no losses. if our goal is to occupy the countries... then we're in trouble.
Hmm...sorry, I forgot to think of that.
Let's just say that their objective is to not destroy them completely nor occupy their land, but defeat their armies while causing as little unnecessary civilian deaths or collateral damage as possible.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Hmm...sorry, I forgot to think of that.Let's just say that their objective is to not destroy them completely nor occupy their land, but defeat their armies while causing as little unnecessary civilian deaths or collateral damage as possible.
if thats the case then we could be in trouble. it wouldnt be out of the question for the armies of many of the other countries to "dissolve" and become part of the civilian by day and result to guerrilla warfare by night similar to whats going on with the taliban now. all of our technology wont matter, then.
Of course there would be a guerilla warfare. And not only that, there would be a whole lot of sabotage, suicide bombings and missions.
Not to mention that anyone American or found to be American in any country outside USA would be immediately put to death.
It would not work. Never. You're talking about 2 billion people against however many people were in USA in 1930s/1940s.
And also the irony of a great deal of technology which developed after war was contributed by Nazis and Hitler's projects and such.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
And also the irony of a great deal of technology which developed after war was contributed by Nazis and Hitler's projects and such.
Jaden and I already had this debate. This is a false idea. The vast majority of technologies came from places other than the 3rd Reich. Proportionally, they actually developed significantly less than the US, before, during, and after WWII.
Edit - Sorry, I missed this:
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
It would not work. Never. You're talking about 2 billion people against however many people were in USA in 1930s/1940s.
It's actually modern US against WWII world. That'd be 310+ million against the rest.